I would send an email to the webmaster telling him/her to go f**k Microsoft. Why do they say Microsoft anyway, as Netscape and Mozilla both support frames and actually both work much better and more securely than IE, which has so many holes in it that Bill Gates could get sucked into it without even trying. I'm surprised he hasn't already. LOL. Lorenzo On a normal ascii line, the only safe condition to detect is a 'BREAK' - everything else having been assigned functions by Gnu EMACS. -- Tarl Neustaedter Chuck Hallenbeck staggered into view and mumbled: > Here is a snip from a web site I recently visited: > > ----- > > You Need Frames > > Any self-respecting person has a frames-capable browser. Go > get one > from [3]Microsoft and then come back. > > > > > ----- > > How about that for due? > > -- > The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (98% of Full) > So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >