you can actually compile for using different module versions, so you may never need do a make modules_install thus whiping out your sound modules. that way everything from your last good compile is still intact. hth -- Shaun Oliver "Before I knew the best part of my life had come, it had gone." EMAIL: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: blindman_2001 at hotmail.com AIM: captain nemo 200