Hello I think that RH has a really good reason for keeping speakup out of the kernel at this time. They have some valid complaints about it and when those are addressed it probably will end up in the distribution again. I do think if you want to take the RHCE exams they should be a little more occomidating. They have the right to make whatever policy they want with regard to their exam documentation but a NDA is a binding contract between RH and the person taking the exam. If you want to write to RH it should be to ask them to attempt to develop policies that allow disabled persons to take part in their training matterial and to have some equal or as close to equal access during the RHCE exams.. Oh on another note.. I had a computer wqith windows XP. It for some reason did not boot.. I took a standard slack root disk and a custom kernel and loadlin put it on a cd and connected my usb hard drive and backed up all my data.. Linux is flexible it has saved me more times thatn I can even count.. Once I used Linux on a zip drive for a month while my notebook's hard drive was off being repaired. With a little customization only booting was the issue.. Of course after a month of use that zip disk stopped working but still. I see all these MCSE's walking around my college campus and when I talk to them about Linux for access to hard drives that have failed they just say they don't use it.. I'm glad I learned it and to anybody who is just begining to explore Linux your doing yourself a favor.. sincerely, Patrick ----- Patrick Turnage E-mail: pturnage at tampabay.rr.com AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk Home Page: http://www.access-connect.com Connecting the world to access technology information. For all mainstream and adaptive hardware and software.