We already do agree to that. Choices are the best solution to any situation. My point was this: if there was a user-space speakup, I tend to think this current Redhat problem would be a bit less intense. I have used other Linux screen reading packages, and prefer Speakup by far, bugs and all. I agree, that if they are on an instability binge, Readhat had good reason to pull it. However, if it was user-space, they may very well have left it in, as the kernel would be (almost) untouched. Luke On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Janina Sajka wrote: > Huh? What is that? I have no idea what a "nonkernel version of Speakup" is, but if you want fully user-space accessibility, it's out there. Go use emacspeak, yasr, > screader, etc. You have choices. That's a good thing. I want my choices, too. I expect that's a good thing as well. > > If there's on screen display, there needs to be a generic accessible alternative. If there's user action capture of any sort, there needs to be the ability to > interface alternative input devices. By my logic, Speakup in the kernel is progress. We still need to fix grub and the bios. > > I'll tell you what, Luke. Let's support choices. Just don't decide for me which ones I should do without unless you want everyone in the world to do without them, too. > Maybe then I'd consider your suggestion equitable. Putting it like this, if I understand you correctly, is just more acquiessance to inequity. > > PS: I really don't understand how you can make the kind of strong statements you've justifiably made about RH's RCE policy over the last few weeks, yet accept second > class citizenship at the system initialization level. Those two don't square with me. > > > Luke Davis writes: > > From: Luke Davis <ldavis at shellworld.net> > > > > I'll just say one thing here: this is only another reason, why there > > should be a non-kernel version of speakup. > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > Thomas D. Ward writes: > > > > From: "Thomas D. Ward" <tward1978 at ea> specific technicaland realistic reasons for pulling speakup. If they were > > > > If they were out to screw us they would have yanked festival and emacspeak from the > > > > distro as well. wouldn't they??? > > > > > > > And at-spi which doesn't even do anything yet as the GNOME accessibility applications aren't ready yet. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >
