You haven't answered the question, though. If there's this "deliberate policy" you allege, how is that that Speakup came to be included in the 8.0 distribution? How is it that RH Tech Support is still committed to supporting it, according to the README.Accessibility included with RH 8.0? Looks to me like the facts don't fit your allegations. And, it looks to me like it's you who have a deliberate ppolicy about trashing them. Darrell Shandrow writes: > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i at azboss.net> > > Hi Janina, > > My original message was a question rather than a statement concerning Red > Hat's removal of Speakup. Again, it was a question rather than a statement. > It is true that I did base my question on evidence of instances of > wrongdoing by the company in other areas of its business. > > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! > Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! > A+, CCNA, Network+! > Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i > All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:42 PM > Subject: Re: RH9 disks on the net. > > > > No not quite. Nor can you provide it, as it doesn't exist. > > > > Two instances of a too-tight RCE policy with no disability accomodations > doesn't make a deliberate policy, nor does it constitute "many attempts" to > my mind. > > > > But, more to the point, your original message in this thread claimed the > removal of Speakup from the RH 9 kernel is a result of this deliberate > policy you imagine. So, > > let me ask you a simple question? > > > > When did Red Hat change from an inclusive policy to a deliberately > discriminatory one? Since they decided on their own to include Speakup in > Red Hat 8.0, there must > > have been an inclusive policy at some time. Would you now claim they've > actively and deliberately changed their minds in the past six months? How do > YOU account for > > Speakup in the 8.0 kernel distribution? > > > > > > > > > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i at azboss.net> > > > > > > Hi Janina, > > > > > > If you are continuing to read the messages of this thread, you are > learning > > > of the evidence. I consider Red Hat's actions to be deliberate. > Ignorance > > > can not be claimed, since many attempts at enlightenment have been made. > I > > > stand by my consideration of their policies of sub-human treatment for > the > > > blind as being deliberate. > > > > > > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! > > > Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! > > > A+, CCNA, Network+! > > > Check out high quality telecommunications services at > http://ld.net/?nu7i > > > All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175