I've answered this before. I don't believe Redhat chose to include Speakup in RH 8.0. I believe it was included because RedHat chose to use an Alan Cocks patched kernel, and alan had included speakup. The fact that Alan happens to be a RedHat employee needs to be set aside here, The purpose of the -ac series of kernel patches is as a proving ground for patches which may/will one day become part of the standard kernel. It is for this reason that speakup was in the -ac kernels. RedHat aren't using a -ac kernel this time around, so no speakup, and they've chosen for whatever reason - others on list know more about this than me), not to include it themselves as a patch, even though they could have. I hardly call the accidental inclusion of an accessibility aid in a release inclusionary practice. notice that the Readme.accessibility file from RH 8 makes no mention of speakup at all. Don't you think if it was a deliberate inclusion they would have at least made the effort to mention it there? I rather suspect, given what i've seen of RH's desire to look good in the public eye while actually doing very little that if they thought they'd included a major accessibility aid, they would have been crowing about it from here to slashdot. Regards Aaron On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 05:42:56PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > No not quite. Nor can you provide it, as it doesn't exist. > > Two instances of a too-tight RCE policy with no disability accomodations doesn't make a deliberate policy, nor does it constitute "many attempts" to my mind. > > But, more to the point, your original message in this thread claimed the removal of Speakup from the RH 9 kernel is a result of this deliberate policy you imagine. So, > let me ask you a simple question? > > When did Red Hat change from an inclusive policy to a deliberately discriminatory one? Since they decided on their own to include Speakup in Red Hat 8.0, there must > have been an inclusive policy at some time. Would you now claim they've actively and deliberately changed their minds in the past six months? How do YOU account for > Speakup in the 8.0 kernel distribution? > > > > > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i at azboss.net> > > > > Hi Janina, > > > > If you are continuing to read the messages of this thread, you are learning > > of the evidence. I consider Red Hat's actions to be deliberate. Ignorance > > can not be claimed, since many attempts at enlightenment have been made. I > > stand by my consideration of their policies of sub-human treatment for the > > blind as being deliberate. > > > > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! > > Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! > > A+, CCNA, Network+! > > Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i > > All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
