Ah, let me make sure I do state that in my mind, knowledge is power and a lack of knowledge is or the amount of knowledge is incumbent upon the user. Like the example of driving; you got a car, but its up to you to learn how to operate it and care for it. Of course caring for it can be either your job or you can pay someone to do it for you, but of course you can do it yourself and pay someone to do the things you are not equip to do. I think you can apply this to many things in life including computers. Scott