Ah, you understand, but still are missing a part of my point. Yes, true you want to do all these things, but not everyone does. Those who choose Linux are not generally your typical user or are searching for something better. As far as whether a gui or commandline offers more control, well you could debate that point. I see the gui as making some tasks more efficient and the commandline allows probably for more flexibility and certainly for tweaking some like the output of a directory listing; well without a doubt its faster to type in what you wish to have as a result than it is to put check marks in boxes. Does this make more sense? Scott
