-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Igor, Well, this is interesting. .Net Server 2003 has a whole lot of command utilities. You can actually perform all administration tasks via the console and it even has a command shell. Wonder if they're actually ports of Unix utilities? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@xxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Speakup Scheduled at CSUN > Hi Scott. Now that you brought it up, its true that everyone chooses what > works for them. Unfortunately, M$ wants to impose their system on > everyone, which really isn't going to work. Others like me, who like to > see all low-level functionality, and be able to do whatever they want, are > severely impaired by a system like Winblows, which both hides the > underlying workings of the box, and makes someone use their stupid gui no > matter who they are. I'm supposed to interact with a gui when I can do the > same thing much faster and tweek it much more on the command line? I don't > think so! > > May you code in the power of the source, > may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, > throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote: > > > Ah, We're back to this topic again. > > > > Well folks the truth be told, the adverage person doesn't give a tiny > > tin damn about what os their machine runs, doesn't care to know ram from > > ram, and isn't even interested in fiddling about with the box. THey go > > to the store, purchase what they believe to be the best box for the > > bucks, come home, get out the big poster that tells them where to plug > > the keyboard, mouse, etc. in, and turn it on. What the adverage person > > does care about is how can the accomplish the task and how quickly > > without a great deal of fuss. The same applies to the adverage person > > who owns a car, they just want to drive and get where they are going. > > THey don't care how many cylinders it has, where its got a carb or fuel > > injected etc. I agree if your going to take on the task of learning an > > os, expect to hit bumps along the way and don't bitch, ask questions, > > read, learn, and so forth. > > So, now if you wonder why there are technicians in the world, now you > > know. So, lets not go about beatting others on the head because they > > aren't interested in Linux or say that Linux isn't ready for the > > adverage user. In fact Linux can be used by the adverage user once its > > install. They wouldn't have a clue or care if its windows or Linux as > > long as they can accomplish the task at hand. It holds true that the > > same adverage user probably wouldn't want to install windows either. > > Hell you buy a machine and it comes with the os already install and most > > all applications. Now if you handed someone a LInux box with everything > > on it, I'm sure they would be just as happy. I think the only challenge > > is perhaps installing some new application. There is no generic method > > I'm aware of to install some package you bought from the store. > > COnsider if you were to buy some new word processing package, most LInux > > distros have a basic feel, but different installation methods, I can see > > how this would pose a problem for someone who would have to find a > > package for their distro. Because there is only one windows, its easy to > > purchase software. I think you see my point. > > Ay, lets face it folks, Linux is not for everyone and neither is > > windows, and neither is the Mac os. YOu pick what works best for you. Of > > course thre are tinkers of cars, computers, and so on and that is what > > most of us are. We are interested in the "under the hood" stuff. > > > > Scott > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 (Build 294) Beta iQA/AwUBPde/jjmECcLUqviGEQKCiwCgyI7yF1oUWWzmvNDk6YAg1Uzu64kAn0zz rLF1GhSjfw6fbdAHKHa0OXO8 =CVi/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----