On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 01:20:26AM -0330, Ed Barnes wrote: if I was able to do it and countless others were as well what's stopping you. >>>> Well, it appears to me that it's only pure stubbernness that's stopping our friend here from trying to install linux. Oh yes, I've seen and heard comments like, "imho linux is nowhere near being ready for the average user." and "the average user is not gonna wanna know how they're comuter works they just want to turn it on and use it." Well, more fool them I say. if you're not prepared to learn about your computer and how it works and what it's all about and how to back out of sticky situations, and believe me, it will happen, then you go right ahead and be exploited by microsoft and a hand full of techies that want nothing more than your hard earned dollars. To Qualify my statement, the majority of techies out there are reasonably priced but there's always those select few that will take your hard earned and do little more than tick this or point and shoot at that and give you a long list of what was wrong in language you weren't prepared to learn as a "user". quit bitching about how hard something is and just bloody well do it. if it dies in the arse, do it again. if you screw up, it's nobody's fault but yours, so, do it again. and keep doing it until you get it right or to a point where you consider it to be right enough for you. When I installed slackware, my first distro, I knew shit about linux. surficeth to say, I knew enough about speakup by reading docs and listening to some tutorials and then going through the motions myself. guess what, I'm still using linux. only the distro has changed, to protect the innocent. hahaha. -- Shaun Oliver It's multiple choice time... What is FORTRAN? a: Between thre and fiv tran. b: What two computers engage in before they interface. c: Ridiculous.