*SNIP* Now I can take issue with that, but I won't. Suffice it to say that Windows will stay no. 1 because of its easy, graphical interface. oh give me a break. that's microsoft conditioning if ever I heard it. My god man, microsoft ripped the gui concept off of apple. Get out of this mind set that microsoft is easy to use, that's a fake. it will do what it wants and no corrispondence will be entered into. Try changing an irq if you really have to, or finding yer nics mac address. the only reason I know how to do either one is cause I wanted to see if I could. believe me microsoft bitches bitterly if you try to assign a device to a different irq than the one it wants you to use. now, Linux, that's a different story. I've never tryed to force irqs with linux but, I'm sure it is doable. the sooner we realize that gates ain't the b-all and end-all, the better off we'll all be. -- Shaun Oliver In a world without fences and walls who needs Windows and Gates? EMAIL: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au ICQ: 76958435