I used K95 with ASAP for years very effectively. I would expect it will still work very well. It isn't freeware, though, but it has been recently updated and now supports SSH as well as telnet. Check it out at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Now, at the risk of offending some, may I add that ASAP yields more satisfactory results than Vocal-Eyes, in my experience? I've seen the "revector" setting work, and not work, for VE users, but I've not seen an ASAP problem with K95, or the Cygwin apps ever--at least not driving an internal Doubletalk Doubletalk seems to be a key. ASAP seems to be the second valuable tool. Now, if you're waiting to see good SSH and telnet accessibility out of software speech and the Windows GUI, you'll have to wait a very long time, because nobody is working on it, as far as I know. I guess it's just more of that disdain for command lines, fools that they are. On Mon, 20 May 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > Window eyes uses the insert-a for speak all when you are in teraterm. That > program is not all that good from my experience. I just wish there were a > good dos telnet program that coudl run from the dos window.. > > -- Charlie. > > At 12:54 PM 5/20/02 -0500, you wrote: > >You mention jaws scripts. Are there window-eyes set files too? Or does it > >work fine without them. > >Greg > > > > > >On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 01:12:56PM -0400, Rich Caloggero wrote: > > > Janina wrote: > > > > > Another option would be a better screen reader for telnet and a > > > > > better telnet client. That would mean a good DOS screen reader > > > > > like asap or Vocal-Eyes, assuming he can actually run DOS on that > > > > > Windows machine. Neither of those is very cheap, though, and > > > > > > I use a free windows terminal emulator called teraterm. I redefine the jaws > > > function sayNonHighlightedText to read everything appearing on the screen, > > > as long as its not a menu or in a dialog box (about 7 lines of code. Go to > > > http://barajas.mit.edu/teraterm/ to get the package. Just unzip it into a > > > directory somewhere and click on ttermpro.exe for the standard version or > > > ttssh.exe for the ssh version. Both report the application name is > > > ttermpro.exe, so the jaws scripts will work regardless. > > > The jaws scripts are in ttermpro.zip. Download this file, extract to your > > > jaws scripts directory, and then either press enter on this script filename > > > from within windows explorer or press insert+f2 and choose script manager > > > and open the file from there. Once you have the file, press control+s to > > > save and compile it. Now you should be able to run teraterm and jaws should > > > speak correctly. > > > > > > The real problem is text editing. I use ex (vi without the full-screen > > > stuff - basically ed ), but only crazy people like me probably want to go > > > this way. I need to try a full screen editor and make it work via a > > terminal > > > emulator. VI might be a good choice, but the key bindings only make > > sense if > > > you know about ed. What's the other choices for full screen editing which > > > are *not* emacs? I've heard of something called vim (is this correct)? > > > There's pico and probably others. I need to try and make this work for > > > myself too, because using ex is nice in some ways, but its more typing than > > > I really want to do with my RSI the way it is. > > > > > > I can help more with this if needed. Its not the greatest solution, but it > > > works very well for me. The terminal emulator is very very stable. Its > > > worked on every version of windows I've tried it on with the same results. > > > > > > Hope this helps someone -- Teddy especially. Please don't hesitate to > > ask me > > > for more help. I will be unavailable for the next week or so, but after the > > > 28th, I'll be able to answer e-mail again. > > > > > > Rich Caloggero > > > MIT Adaptive Tech. for Info and Computing > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org
