The reason I like console telnet is because it's open source and I can get the sourcecode if I need to make any changes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Re: free terminal emulator for windows - download and install > I used K95 with ASAP for years very effectively. I would expect > it will still work very well. It isn't freeware, though, but it > has been recently updated and now supports SSH as well as telnet. > Check it out at: > > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html > > > Now, at the risk of offending some, may I add that ASAP yields > more satisfactory results than Vocal-Eyes, in my experience? I've > seen the "revector" setting work, and not work, for VE users, but > I've not seen an ASAP problem with K95, or the Cygwin apps > ever--at least not driving an internal Doubletalk > > Doubletalk seems to be a key. ASAP seems to be the second > valuable tool. > > Now, if you're waiting to see good SSH and telnet accessibility > out of software speech and the Windows GUI, you'll have to wait a > very long time, because nobody is working on it, as far as I > know. I guess it's just more of that disdain for command > lines, fools that they are. > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > Window eyes uses the insert-a for speak all when you are in teraterm. That > > program is not all that good from my experience. I just wish there were a > > good dos telnet program that coudl run from the dos window.. > > > > -- Charlie. > > > > At 12:54 PM 5/20/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >You mention jaws scripts. Are there window-eyes set files too? Or does it > > >work fine without them. > > >Greg > > > > > > > > >On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 01:12:56PM -0400, Rich Caloggero wrote: > > > > Janina wrote: > > > > > > Another option would be a better screen reader for telnet and a > > > > > > better telnet client. That would mean a good DOS screen reader > > > > > > like asap or Vocal-Eyes, assuming he can actually run DOS on that > > > > > > Windows machine. Neither of those is very cheap, though, and > > > > > > > > I use a free windows terminal emulator called teraterm. I redefine the jaws > > > > function sayNonHighlightedText to read everything appearing on the screen, > > > > as long as its not a menu or in a dialog box (about 7 lines of code. Go to > > > > http://barajas.mit.edu/teraterm/ to get the package. Just unzip it into a > > > > directory somewhere and click on ttermpro.exe for the standard version or > > > > ttssh.exe for the ssh version. Both report the application name is > > > > ttermpro.exe, so the jaws scripts will work regardless. > > > > The jaws scripts are in ttermpro.zip. Download this file, extract to your > > > > jaws scripts directory, and then either press enter on this script filename > > > > from within windows explorer or press insert+f2 and choose script manager > > > > and open the file from there. Once you have the file, press control+s to > > > > save and compile it. Now you should be able to run teraterm and jaws should > > > > speak correctly. > > > > > > > > The real problem is text editing. I use ex (vi without the full-screen > > > > stuff - basically ed ), but only crazy people like me probably want to go > > > > this way. I need to try a full screen editor and make it work via a > > > terminal > > > > emulator. VI might be a good choice, but the key bindings only make > > > sense if > > > > you know about ed. What's the other choices for full screen editing which > > > > are *not* emacs? I've heard of something called vim (is this correct)? > > > > There's pico and probably others. I need to try and make this work for > > > > myself too, because using ex is nice in some ways, but its more typing than > > > > I really want to do with my RSI the way it is. > > > > > > > > I can help more with this if needed. Its not the greatest solution, but it > > > > works very well for me. The terminal emulator is very very stable. Its > > > > worked on every version of windows I've tried it on with the same results. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps someone -- Teddy especially. Please don't hesitate to > > > ask me > > > > for more help. I will be unavailable for the next week or so, but after the > > > > 28th, I'll be able to answer e-mail again. > > > > > > > > Rich Caloggero > > > > MIT Adaptive Tech. for Info and Computing > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
