Actually even better than speak all you can define a speak window around the terminal screen of teraterm. I use teratermand secure crt on a daily basis when I don'thave access to my speakout to use Linux from my laptop. Charles Crawford said the following on Mon, May 20, 2002 at 01:45:11PM -0400: > Window eyes uses the insert-a for speak all when you are in teraterm. That > program is not all that good from my experience. I just wish there were a > good dos telnet program that coudl run from the dos window.. > > -- Charlie. > > At 12:54 PM 5/20/02 -0500, you wrote: > >You mention jaws scripts. Are there window-eyes set files too? Or does it > >work fine without them. > >Greg > > > > > >On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 01:12:56PM -0400, Rich Caloggero wrote: > >> Janina wrote: > >> > > Another option would be a better screen reader for telnet and a > >> > > better telnet client. That would mean a good DOS screen reader > >> > > like asap or Vocal-Eyes, assuming he can actually run DOS on that > >> > > Windows machine. Neither of those is very cheap, though, and > >> > >> I use a free windows terminal emulator called teraterm. I redefine the > >jaws > >> function sayNonHighlightedText to read everything appearing on the > >screen, > >> as long as its not a menu or in a dialog box (about 7 lines of code. Go > >to > >> http://barajas.mit.edu/teraterm/ to get the package. Just unzip it into a > >> directory somewhere and click on ttermpro.exe for the standard version or > >> ttssh.exe for the ssh version. Both report the application name is > >> ttermpro.exe, so the jaws scripts will work regardless. > >> The jaws scripts are in ttermpro.zip. Download this file, extract to your > >> jaws scripts directory, and then either press enter on this script > >filename > >> from within windows explorer or press insert+f2 and choose script manager > >> and open the file from there. Once you have the file, press control+s to > >> save and compile it. Now you should be able to run teraterm and jaws > >should > >> speak correctly. > >> > >> The real problem is text editing. I use ex (vi without the full-screen > >> stuff - basically ed ), but only crazy people like me probably want to go > >> this way. I need to try a full screen editor and make it work via a > >terminal > >> emulator. VI might be a good choice, but the key bindings only make > >sense if > >> you know about ed. What's the other choices for full screen editing which > >> are *not* emacs? I've heard of something called vim (is this correct)? > >> There's pico and probably others. I need to try and make this work for > >> myself too, because using ex is nice in some ways, but its more typing > >than > >> I really want to do with my RSI the way it is. > >> > >> I can help more with this if needed. Its not the greatest solution, but > >it > >> works very well for me. The terminal emulator is very very stable. Its > >> worked on every version of windows I've tried it on with the same > >results. > >> > >> Hope this helps someone -- Teddy especially. Please don't hesitate to > >ask me > >> for more help. I will be unavailable for the next week or so, but after > >the > >> 28th, I'll be able to answer e-mail again. > >> > >> Rich Caloggero > >> MIT Adaptive Tech. for Info and Computing > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way will promptly develop. Raul A. Gallegos - http://www.asmodean.net