Hi all, Jannina, great post. Yes, I do know people who use emacs with speakup, and I know it works because I've tried it myself. I like the ease of use of Emacspeak, however. <smile> I think you're right. It's a matter of choice, and isn't that what makes us independent? One of my reasons for liking Emacspeak is the sound icons. I confess I like them a great deal and think that they are one of the nicest things about the program. However, as you say, it's all personal preference. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT