Hi Janina. Despite the fact that I have done only one basic Unix/Linux course before, my thought was and still is, that having separate partitions such as /var, /tmp and such will decrease the amount of typing needed to be done and will decrease the likelyness that I could confuse Linux file conventions and mount points with the conventions used by other network operating systems which I am using now and will likely continue to use after I graduate from my program, I.E., Ms Windows NT and 2000 servers, Novell Netware, and such. I realize that with more practice and experience, these differences will not be as confusing and I will be able to talk the speak of one and then quickly switch to any of the others, however; that is a ways away yet. Regards all. Ed Barnes At 11:56 AM 25/02/2002, you wrote: >Well, this is good, Ed. The best part is the realization that you will >reinstall in the near future. In fact, you may find that you do a fair >amount of installing before you develop your own "style" as it were. > >The point is not that you should have /var and /tmp. Of course you should, >and will have them. The question is only whether creating these two file >systems as separate partitions makes any sense or not. In other words, if >you don't specify them as separate partitions, the installer will zsimply >create those directories in /. > >Ditto for /usr and /home, by the bye. > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes >wrote: > > > Janina, just one thing to add to your suggestion of dumping the /tmp and > > /var partitions. > > I was of the understanding that files relating to dns services resided > > somewhere under /var and I did want to have a dns service running so I > could > > access my other machines on my little hobby network here at home from the > > internet. > > Also, I don't imagine that those two small hard drives will be residing in > > my Linux computer for ever as the only game in town so to speak, I am > > planning to buy a 20 or a 40 for my main system which is a Windows box, > > remove the 12 gb from the Windows box of course, and stick it in the Linux > > box so itwould then have three. > > As the edition of a 12 gb would change the complection of the system in a > > radical sense I undoubtedly would flatten the two smaller hard drives and > > re-install everything to fully take advantage of the fact that I would have > > a great deal more storage space. > > I'd imagine my Linux system with only two hard drives in it will only be up > > for a couple of weeks before I have bought the new drive, however; I figure > > that what I have is decent to learn from in the beginning and I'd guess > > whatever software I could fit in a 1 gb /usr partition would be enough to > > occupy my thirst to learn Linux until I add the larger drive. > > Thanks for sending the extra info and good luck with the new software you > > were playing with. > > Ed Barnes > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:48 PM > > Subject: Re: Partitioning -- was Re: choosing a distro and version > > > > > > Yes, they were missing, sorry about that. Playing around with unfamiliar > > software ... > > > > Let me try this again ... > > > > Since you're only using this linux computer for yourself, and since your > > hard drives are relatively small as these things are thought of today, I'd > > advise dumping the /var and /tmp partitions. The 400 mB you specified for > > / is sufficient for / and /var and /tmp most probably. If anything on /var > > gets too large, which is unlikely, you can always move it to /home and > > create a symbolic link in /var--so you are not boxing yourself in by doing > > this. > > > > I guess that if it were me, I'd want a bit more than 1 gB for /usr because > > I'd expect to play around with software. On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes > > wrote: > > > > > Hi janina, I think your editional comments you referred too are missing, > > or > > > at least I am unable to find them. Thanks. Ed > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:03 PM > > > Subject: Re: Partitioning -- was Re: choosing a distro and version > > > > > > > > > Hi, Ed: > > > > > > This looks much better to me. A couple of comments sill, however: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed Barnes writes: > > > > Janina and list. > > > > I am learning more and more from this list as I write to it and > read the > > > > messages of others and I should add that I am thoroughally enjoying > > > > participating. > > > > Guess the fact that I am a bit of a computer nird might have something > > to > > > do > > > > with it in a sense because I spend hours and hours fooling around at > > > > computer stuff outside of what school requires just because I enjoy it > > as > > > a > > > > hobby. > > > > Nevertheless, yes Janina I did forget the ned for a /usr partition. > > > > Regarding putting the swap partition on /dev/hda1, I found it a little > > odd > > > > that you were commenting on this as I couldn't remember writing that in > > > the > > > > original message. > > > > I actually didn't or didn't intend to write it that way but I've > > > looked > > > > at the message that you would have received late last night and that is > > > what > > > > you saw when you read the message so it makes some sense now. > > > > I have a touchpad on my notebook which I've not yet disabled and > > > sometimes > > > > if my palm hits it as I type and I don't realize it my messages end up > > as > > > a > > > > bit of a jumble and things are miss-aligned. > > > > The pointer that you use a / partition of 256 mb approx and that I > could > > > get > > > > away with 400 mb or so is invaluable. > > > > This drastically changes things, but it is change for the better. > > > > After reading your note I am wondering if a partition scheme such > as the > > > > following would be more appropriate? Once again I'm planning on > > installing > > > > the modified Red Hat 7.2 on a Pentium II 233 mhz w 64 mb of ram. > Any and > > > all > > > > thoughts welcome folks. > > > > /dev/hda is a 2 gb hd > > > > /dev/hda1 > > > > / partition 400 mb > > > > /dev/hda2 > > > > /usr partition 1 gb (I don't plan on installing anything from x) > > > > /dev/hda3 > > > > /var 600 mb (very limitted mail and web and dns server capability) > > > > /dev/hdb is a 1.6 gb hard disk > > > > /dev/hdb1 > > > > swap partition of size 200 mb > > > > /dev/hdb2 > > > > /tmp 400 mb > > > > /dev/hdb3 > > > > /home remaining space on hard disk > > > > Many thanks to all in advance. > > > > Ed Barnes > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:03 PM > > > > Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know about the wisdom of putting swap in hda1. Sounds > unusual to > > > > me, put I don't know that there's actually anything wrong with that. I > > > > just have never seen that. > > > > > > > > Also, it's not your /root -- but your / partition which is the > root. 1.5 > > > > gB is undoubtedly large--try 500 mB or even less. I get away with about > > > > 256 mB these days. Essentially, make this bigger if it includes /var, > > and > > > > less if /var is a separate partition, and less if /var will have > > > > relatively little to do--no ftp, no web, only your mail, etc. > > > > > > > > Your note does not speak of /usr. That is very important, and will take > > at > > > > least 1 gB if you install nothing from X, and about 3.5 gB if you > > install > > > > everything in the RH 7.2 distribution. > > > > > > > > My advice is to let diskdruid figure out where to put things. It's good > > at > > > > that. Just specify the sizes and mount points. The term "Mount points," > > by > > > > the way, is linux speak for things like /, and /usr, and /home, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
