Since we're all talking about anything and everything at the moment, here's one for the list to think on: I am currently sampling some 4-track material I own to keep it safe in case the tapes age or snap. I get the wav files as I want them; (I can summarize to the list if anyone cares with the scripts I wrote yesterday to make it all work) and these aren't Jim's scripts, I wrote these ones with comments to aid in maintainance. I have a .wav file 22050 samples per second 16-bit little endian mono. I try to oggenc this file with the following command: oggenc -b32 side01.wav and get a message that "mode initialization failed" This used to work fine in 1.0rc2 but appears to have broken in 1.0rc3 Anyone else running 1.0rc3 and seen this behaviour? If I don't specify -b32 I get an encoded file which averages 51kb/s which is far too much bandwidth to waste on this stuff. At the moment I am left to mp3 the files with lame -h -b32 side01.wav side01.mp3 which does work but I would preferr to use ogg. Must I downgrade to 1.0rc2 again? Any insites would be apreciated. Regards, Kerry. -- Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.net kerry at gotss.eu.org or kerry at gotss.spice.net.au