I use the ftp client that is in ie 5.5. The only time it got me really pissed was when it crapped out when I downloaded debian for a friend. Why he wanted debian, I don't know. Also cute ftp crashes my windows me box. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version > Hi janina, I eventually successfully downloaded the images with no problems, > the main reason I don't usually use programs which support download > resumption is because I am now on cable and if I am downloading isoes and > such I usually set them to start before I go to bed here at home and if it > craps out it's no big deal, I just re-start it when I leave for school in > the mornings. > I also don't like Cute FTP, it's a question of personal preference in this > case, and it was the only client I bothered to familiarize myself with when > it comes to Windows-based anything in the ftp client arena. > I usually use ftp from the Windows DOS-box, the only thing I find > challenging, and I would guess others probably find this to be so > irregardless what command line utility they are using is remembering long > file names because they are becoming more and more common. > I downloaded Ncftp but haven't tested it out. > > Thanks Janina and have a good week-end. > Ed Barnes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version > > > Two points: > > 1.) You should be dlwonloading from linux-speakup.org, and nowhere > else. Any other address you may have been given is now old news. Though > well-meaning people will still give out other addresses, this is now the > one to use, and the one that will stay for the forseeable future. > > Using http, goto: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/images/ > > Or, use anonymous ftp at ftp.linux-speakup.org and cd to > pub/speakup/disks/redhat/images. > > 2.) If at all possible, use some kind of download software that > supports resuming an interrupted download. As you're discovering, this can > be an invaluable feature. ncftp for windows is one such client: > > ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/binaries/ncftp-3.1.2-win32.exe > > There are others, such as CuteFTP at: > > http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes wrote: > > > Hi Thomas, I have all of the above, fast network connection, fast cdrw > > drive, etc, however; I discovered the red hat 7.2 cd images including > > speakup in the red hat site at linux-speakup and both times I tried > > downloading disk 1 of the i386 iso images both transfers died at about the > > 60 mb point, anyone have any thoughts as to why this happened. > > I didn't receive any errors on screen. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:54 PM > > Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version > > > > > > Hi, Ed. Well, I would suggest Red Hat 7.2 myself. If you have access to a > > high speed internet connection, and a cdrom burner there is a version of > Red > > Hat 7.2 on the Linux Speakup site that has Speakup already built in. It > has > > boot disks to help you with a self voicing install, etc. > > Red Hat was my first distribution, and still is my favorite distribution. > > Fpor newbies it has quite a lot to offer. The sound configuration tools, > > kudzu hardware maniger, and other configuration tools to help you get it > > going. > > > > Your partitioning sounds good. It would be a vary good idea to put /home > on > > /dev/hdb. I will leave it up to others to give specifics on partitioning > > they use. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ed Barnes <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca> > > To: linux speakup listserve <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:22 AM > > Subject: choosing a distro and version > > > > > > > Hi again folks, hope nobody is sick of hearing from me yet, if so, I'm > > > sorry. > > > nevertheless, I was looking at the speakup web site, in particular > > available > > > information on Debian and Red Hat Linux distroes. > > > I am debating choosing to setup either a Debian or a Red Hat system as > my > > > first Linux system > > > I have spoken with some Linux users locally and the general consensus > from > > > those who have used both distroes is that for a first-timer Red Hat > might > > be > > > an easier setup and that after I have successfully conquered setting up > a > > > Red Hat box I would have enough skill to conquer setup of Debian and/or > > > Slackware as desired. > > > Any thoughts? > > > The system which I was planning to use and dedicate to setting up Linux > as > > > its only operating system is a Pentium II 233 MHZ w 64 mb of ram and two > > > HDs, it has a sound blaster pro sound card, and it will have a Symbios > > Logic > > > pci video adapter or an Sys chip set based AGP though I am leaning > toward > > > using the AGP so as to be able to use the extra pci slot for something > > more > > > practical like one of the nics. > > > I know that I should create a min of three partitions, /home, /root, and > a > > > swap partition. > > > I have rough ideas of how big I want these partitions to be based on > what > > I > > > wish to do with the server from a functional point of view. > > > The two HDs are 1.6 gb and 2 gb in size respectively. > > > From a point of view of incorporating some level of fault tolerance in > the > > > system I was thinking the root partition and the swap partition should > go > > on > > > /dev/hda and the home partition should go on /dev/hdb. > > > This would make system backup more convenient as I would only > have > > > to backup the /dev/hdb drive to save user data. > > > In the event that I do anything to cause the kernel to blow up I could > > > simply flatten /dev/hda and re-install it and re-create the user > accounts > > > whose data is still stored on /dev/hdb and or my backups. > > > I was figuring that I would optimize hd space usage by using the 2 gb > > > drive as /dev/hda and use the 1.6 gb as /dev/hdb as I don't estimate > that > > my > > > system would have any more than 2 too 5 users, root, an user account, > for > > > myself, and one too three accounts that I might create to facilitate my > > own > > > fooling around and attempting to learn more about Linux aside from the > > > accounts which some Linux services, processes create after they are > > compiled > > > into the kernel and started. > > > I was also thinking of putting a min of two nics into the system so it > > could > > > be used to store a dynamic routing table for dns and create an ip subnet > > > mask so though I am paying for only one ip through my cable internet > > service > > > provider all the machines I have at home could both access the internet > > and > > > be accessed from the internet by me. > > > I know that steps to create an ip subnet mask and setup dns are well > > > documented at linuxdoc.org and I enjoy reading tech docs as required so > I > > > won't bor you guys with questions that have already been answered > > elsewhere. > > > I have read the readme files pertaining to speakup when it is installed > > with > > > both Red Hat 7 and 7.2 respectively and I already have copies of both > > > versions gotten directly from a Red Hat mirror. > > > Due to the fact that easy-to-use boot disk images are available for 7.0 > > and > > > I don't need to modify any software which I already have other than > > > downloading the appropriate boot image and using rawrite to copy it to > > > floppy it seems that this would be the best distro to choose in my case. > > > In reading the speakup-related readme for Red Hat 7.2 it seems that I > > would > > > have to radically alter the CDs I already have to make it work with > > speakup > > > and I don't really want the extra work at the moment. > > > Lastly, for synths I have two Accents, a pc and an sa, a transport, and > a > > > BNS. > > > From the collective experience of others, is there one which is easier > to > > > get talking or which works better than any of the others given the ones > I > > > have available to me or is it just a question of me choosing the one I > > like > > > to listen to the most and choosing to use it over any of the others. > > > > > > In closing, thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any thoughts on what I've > > > written and guidance as to whether I am hitting a home run or if I am > very > > > much out in left field so to speak. > > > Any and all opinions welcome either sent to the listserve or to me > > directly > > > using either ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or ebarnes at superweb.ca. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > 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