Hi janina, I eventually successfully downloaded the images with no problems, the main reason I don't usually use programs which support download resumption is because I am now on cable and if I am downloading isoes and such I usually set them to start before I go to bed here at home and if it craps out it's no big deal, I just re-start it when I leave for school in the mornings. I also don't like Cute FTP, it's a question of personal preference in this case, and it was the only client I bothered to familiarize myself with when it comes to Windows-based anything in the ftp client arena. I usually use ftp from the Windows DOS-box, the only thing I find challenging, and I would guess others probably find this to be so irregardless what command line utility they are using is remembering long file names because they are becoming more and more common. I downloaded Ncftp but haven't tested it out. Thanks Janina and have a good week-end. Ed Barnes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version Two points: 1.) You should be dlwonloading from linux-speakup.org, and nowhere else. Any other address you may have been given is now old news. Though well-meaning people will still give out other addresses, this is now the one to use, and the one that will stay for the forseeable future. Using http, goto: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/images/ Or, use anonymous ftp at ftp.linux-speakup.org and cd to pub/speakup/disks/redhat/images. 2.) If at all possible, use some kind of download software that supports resuming an interrupted download. As you're discovering, this can be an invaluable feature. ncftp for windows is one such client: ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/binaries/ncftp-3.1.2-win32.exe There are others, such as CuteFTP at: http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes wrote: > Hi Thomas, I have all of the above, fast network connection, fast cdrw > drive, etc, however; I discovered the red hat 7.2 cd images including > speakup in the red hat site at linux-speakup and both times I tried > downloading disk 1 of the i386 iso images both transfers died at about the > 60 mb point, anyone have any thoughts as to why this happened. > I didn't receive any errors on screen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version > > > Hi, Ed. Well, I would suggest Red Hat 7.2 myself. If you have access to a > high speed internet connection, and a cdrom burner there is a version of Red > Hat 7.2 on the Linux Speakup site that has Speakup already built in. It has > boot disks to help you with a self voicing install, etc. > Red Hat was my first distribution, and still is my favorite distribution. > Fpor newbies it has quite a lot to offer. The sound configuration tools, > kudzu hardware maniger, and other configuration tools to help you get it > going. > > Your partitioning sounds good. It would be a vary good idea to put /home on > /dev/hdb. I will leave it up to others to give specifics on partitioning > they use. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ed Barnes <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca> > To: linux speakup listserve <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:22 AM > Subject: choosing a distro and version > > > > Hi again folks, hope nobody is sick of hearing from me yet, if so, I'm > > sorry. > > nevertheless, I was looking at the speakup web site, in particular > available > > information on Debian and Red Hat Linux distroes. > > I am debating choosing to setup either a Debian or a Red Hat system as my > > first Linux system > > I have spoken with some Linux users locally and the general consensus from > > those who have used both distroes is that for a first-timer Red Hat might > be > > an easier setup and that after I have successfully conquered setting up a > > Red Hat box I would have enough skill to conquer setup of Debian and/or > > Slackware as desired. > > Any thoughts? > > The system which I was planning to use and dedicate to setting up Linux as > > its only operating system is a Pentium II 233 MHZ w 64 mb of ram and two > > HDs, it has a sound blaster pro sound card, and it will have a Symbios > Logic > > pci video adapter or an Sys chip set based AGP though I am leaning toward > > using the AGP so as to be able to use the extra pci slot for something > more > > practical like one of the nics. > > I know that I should create a min of three partitions, /home, /root, and a > > swap partition. > > I have rough ideas of how big I want these partitions to be based on what > I > > wish to do with the server from a functional point of view. > > The two HDs are 1.6 gb and 2 gb in size respectively. > > From a point of view of incorporating some level of fault tolerance in the > > system I was thinking the root partition and the swap partition should go > on > > /dev/hda and the home partition should go on /dev/hdb. > > This would make system backup more convenient as I would only have > > to backup the /dev/hdb drive to save user data. > > In the event that I do anything to cause the kernel to blow up I could > > simply flatten /dev/hda and re-install it and re-create the user accounts > > whose data is still stored on /dev/hdb and or my backups. > > I was figuring that I would optimize hd space usage by using the 2 gb > > drive as /dev/hda and use the 1.6 gb as /dev/hdb as I don't estimate that > my > > system would have any more than 2 too 5 users, root, an user account, for > > myself, and one too three accounts that I might create to facilitate my > own > > fooling around and attempting to learn more about Linux aside from the > > accounts which some Linux services, processes create after they are > compiled > > into the kernel and started. > > I was also thinking of putting a min of two nics into the system so it > could > > be used to store a dynamic routing table for dns and create an ip subnet > > mask so though I am paying for only one ip through my cable internet > service > > provider all the machines I have at home could both access the internet > and > > be accessed from the internet by me. > > I know that steps to create an ip subnet mask and setup dns are well > > documented at linuxdoc.org and I enjoy reading tech docs as required so I > > won't bor you guys with questions that have already been answered > elsewhere. > > I have read the readme files pertaining to speakup when it is installed > with > > both Red Hat 7 and 7.2 respectively and I already have copies of both > > versions gotten directly from a Red Hat mirror. > > Due to the fact that easy-to-use boot disk images are available for 7.0 > and > > I don't need to modify any software which I already have other than > > downloading the appropriate boot image and using rawrite to copy it to > > floppy it seems that this would be the best distro to choose in my case. > > In reading the speakup-related readme for Red Hat 7.2 it seems that I > would > > have to radically alter the CDs I already have to make it work with > speakup > > and I don't really want the extra work at the moment. > > Lastly, for synths I have two Accents, a pc and an sa, a transport, and a > > BNS. > > From the collective experience of others, is there one which is easier to > > get talking or which works better than any of the others given the ones I > > have available to me or is it just a question of me choosing the one I > like > > to listen to the most and choosing to use it over any of the others. > > > > In closing, thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any thoughts on what I've > > written and guidance as to whether I am hitting a home run or if I am very > > much out in left field so to speak. > > Any and all opinions welcome either sent to the listserve or to me > directly > > using either ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or ebarnes at superweb.ca. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup 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