No argument there. Still, in the sceme of things where a hardbound book is now often $30, I don't find the cost that prohibitive. But, I do take your point. If you don't have it, don't squander. Instead, encourage your public library to get it for you! <grin> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Watson, Keith wrote: > Seems a little expensive to me. Minimum $120 bucks a year for something that > I can't download to my local system. Looks good for those who can get their > companies to foot the bill, but for those of use on fixed incomes, ASCII > still looks good. Besides, as I was so pointable reminded the other day, > Grep is your friend. While we're on the subject that is. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at afb.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:02 PM > To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca' > Subject: RE: Perl Self-Study > > > Keith, thanks for reminding us of O'Reilly's excellent support for blind > readers > of their books. They really are exemplary. > > Since we're on the subject, let me just add a little of my opinion re the > relative merits of what we can get from O'Reilly. > > ASCII is the old reliable that we've known and used for years. It has its > limitations, of course, and I am sure I needn't belabor them here. > > I consider HTML the next step up from ASCII because hyperlinks are > valuable, and HTML files usually support navigation much better--movement > from chapter to chapter, etc. > > The O'Reilly Safari service goes one better still, and I think it's worth > exploring for that reason. Not only can you get the contents of books up > on screen right away, you can also search, using Boulian operators across > several titles and have the service autogenerate a special presentation > based on the hits you get. I think this is a step beyond that could be > very helpful--especially since it seems to be fully accessible. > > On top of it all, O'Reilly is stepping out and offering this service > without gobs of encryption and all kinds of restrictions technical and > social--like some other publishers we know of. That's exemploray too, in > my view, and it deserves notice and praise. And, it sure gets my support. > Actually makes me feel good about spending a little cash with O'Reilly. > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Watson, Keith wrote: > > > Janina, (and Amanda, and all) > > > > Some of you are aware of this, some of you are not. O'Reilly has a program > > called "Books for the Blind". They offer any of their publications to us > in > > text format. All you have to do is provide a doctors note certifying that > > you are visually impared/blind and they will provide you any book you want > > via ftp. For more information contact: > > > > Lenny Mueliner > > 617-499-7440 > > len at oreilly.com (may have changed to len at ora.com, not sure) > > > > Keith > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at afb.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:55 PM > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: Re: Perl Self-Study > > > > > > Hi, Amanda: > > > > Get the Perl books from O'Reilly. They're perfect and you can get them on > > CD ROM in html files from > > > > http://linux.oreilly.com > > > > You might also want to try the O'Reilly Safari service. It's a monthly > > subscription service where you get to keep up to a set number of books > > available for a particular fee. So much money for 5 books, so much for 10 > > books, etc. And, you get to change your list of books every month. Very > > cool. Check this out at: > > > > http://safari.oreilly.com > > > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Amanda Lee wrote: > > > > > On the subject of Perl, if anyone has recommendations of soft > > > copy/electronic (etext) resources for teaching oneslf Perl and/or > > > Cornshell, please write me off list. > > > > > > Thanks! - Amanda Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
