Seems a little expensive to me. Minimum $120 bucks a year for something that I can't download to my local system. Looks good for those who can get their companies to foot the bill, but for those of use on fixed incomes, ASCII still looks good. Besides, as I was so pointable reminded the other day, Grep is your friend. While we're on the subject that is. -----Original Message----- From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:02 PM To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca' Subject: RE: Perl Self-Study Keith, thanks for reminding us of O'Reilly's excellent support for blind readers of their books. They really are exemplary. Since we're on the subject, let me just add a little of my opinion re the relative merits of what we can get from O'Reilly. ASCII is the old reliable that we've known and used for years. It has its limitations, of course, and I am sure I needn't belabor them here. I consider HTML the next step up from ASCII because hyperlinks are valuable, and HTML files usually support navigation much better--movement from chapter to chapter, etc. The O'Reilly Safari service goes one better still, and I think it's worth exploring for that reason. Not only can you get the contents of books up on screen right away, you can also search, using Boulian operators across several titles and have the service autogenerate a special presentation based on the hits you get. I think this is a step beyond that could be very helpful--especially since it seems to be fully accessible. On top of it all, O'Reilly is stepping out and offering this service without gobs of encryption and all kinds of restrictions technical and social--like some other publishers we know of. That's exemploray too, in my view, and it deserves notice and praise. And, it sure gets my support. Actually makes me feel good about spending a little cash with O'Reilly. On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Watson, Keith wrote: > Janina, (and Amanda, and all) > > Some of you are aware of this, some of you are not. O'Reilly has a program > called "Books for the Blind". They offer any of their publications to us in > text format. All you have to do is provide a doctors note certifying that > you are visually impared/blind and they will provide you any book you want > via ftp. For more information contact: > > Lenny Mueliner > 617-499-7440 > len at oreilly.com (may have changed to len at ora.com, not sure) > > Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at afb.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:55 PM > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Perl Self-Study > > > Hi, Amanda: > > Get the Perl books from O'Reilly. They're perfect and you can get them on > CD ROM in html files from > > http://linux.oreilly.com > > You might also want to try the O'Reilly Safari service. It's a monthly > subscription service where you get to keep up to a set number of books > available for a particular fee. So much money for 5 books, so much for 10 > books, etc. And, you get to change your list of books every month. Very > cool. Check this out at: > > http://safari.oreilly.com > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Amanda Lee wrote: > > > On the subject of Perl, if anyone has recommendations of soft > > copy/electronic (etext) resources for teaching oneslf Perl and/or > > Cornshell, please write me off list. > > > > Thanks! - Amanda Lee > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup