ultrasonics was developed until about 98, but stopped because there aren't enough c++ developers willing to work on it. saqib shaikh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: MSAA for Linux > Well, not exactly MSAA, but something in the spirit of MSAA for linux would > be a *great* thing. MSAA allows a process to ask another process about its > internals. The questions which can be asked and the data which can be > gathered about process X by process Y are carefully designed to minimize > security concerns and to be particularly useful to a screen reader. To put > it another way, if process X is a screen reader and process Y is, say, a web > browser, then process X is going to want to know a bunch of things about > process Y in order to allow a blind user to interact with it. Actually, if > process X could just get hold of the parsed html (this tree is usually > called the document object model - DOM), then the screen reader would be > able to do great things. If you look at the jfw scripts for internet > explorer, there is a call which returns a DOM object. The function called is > not defined anywhere in JFW; its a magic call made posible by MSAA. > As fare as I know, the ultrasonix screen reader for X-Windows is based upon > similar technology. With X, however, implementing a protocol which can allow > any process to gather this kind of information from another process is > complex and risks exposing too much, making security a problem. There are > other issues too which I'm not really up on, but I do believe that X now has > RAP and ICE protocols (romote access protocol, and I'm not sure what ICE > stands for), but I'm not sure how fully developed they or ultrasonix are at > present. > Can anyone shed more light on this? > > Rich > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Victor Tsaran" <tsar at sylaba.poznan.pl> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: NICHOLAS PETRELEY: "The Open Source" from InfoWorld.com, > Wednesday, June 27, 2001 > > > > I think this is a very interesting article. How do we, VIP, benefit from > the > > powerful and yet easy-to-use KDE version 2.1? Unfortunately, we can see it > > happening more often that more and more programs are written for X-Window. > > Don't tell me there are console alternatives for every GUI program, this > is > > no longer true. MSAA for Linux is what we need! > > Best, > > Vic > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup