Nope. X won't hold anyones hands. You have to learn Linux from the ground up. You should know both the shell and x to really get a feel for the os and it's abilities. For us at this point we make do with the shell, but the day will come when we can use x for word processing and such, and shell for other things. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shaun Oliver <shauno@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0 > thomas, > I'm in agreement with you. > the shell is not for everyone. > but having said that, if people think that lthe x-windows system is > going to be like ms windows, they have another thing coming. > they'll be both pleasantly surprised and in for a nasty shock. > in as much as with linux there isn't as many crashes as there is with > windows but by the same token, it pays to learn as much about your > machine as possible because linux isn't going to hand hold anybody > either. > those are just my thoughts. > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Thomas Ward wrote: > > > hey, he wanted to know Speakups limatations and I told him. Weather anyone > > wants to believe it or not x-windows is a big part of the sited world. > > Users that come from MS Windows often ask me if Linux has a gui just like > > Windows, and they want that ease of use. Many blind users won't use Linux > > just because they can't use x. > > > > I still use Windows and Linux, because I don't have the option of the rich > > apps for x. I'd like to be able to use Gnofin, Star Office, and plenty of > > other apps that should be accessible once Gnopernicus comes out. > > > > I have a vary fast 1.2 GHZ ddesktop computer with lots of ram, and x moves > > like a demon on my computer. I haven't noticed any memory or speed loss > > using x. X even runs pretty decently on my laptop which is only a p166 with > > 80 MB of ram. X operates better than MS Windows as far as speed, and I'm not > > sure what you are getting at as a memory hog. > > > > The point here is that the sighted world does use X for almost everything, > > and we should have access to that interface as well. I'll use any interface > > that gets me where I want to go, and any apps I chose to. Frankly, i am not > > sure why people complain about anyone who shows an interest in a graphical > > interface. The shell interface is not for everyone. I frankly can't remember > > every single command for Linux, and know it would be easier just to click a > > button or menu item to do that command. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > Shaun Oliver > > Marriage is a three ring circus: > engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. > -- Roger Price > > Email: shauno at goanna.net.au > Icq: 76958435 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
