Hi, kirk. It is true most sited people use alot of things via xterm, but think how many commandline apps there are that are not x based. Gcc comes to mind. Well, I know there is a new x server in Red Hat 7.2 and from what mmy family tells me it seams to operate pretty good. They use it more than I do, and they seam to like it alright. At least it is a low cost alternative to MS Windows, and we can expect x to get more stable as development is done to it to improve it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirk Wood <cpt.kirk@xxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:52 AM Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0 > On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Shaun Oliver wrote: > > I'm in agreement with you. > > the shell is not for everyone. > > but having said that, if people think that lthe x-windows system is > > going to be like ms windows, they have another thing coming. > > they'll be both pleasantly surprised and in for a nasty shock. > > in as much as with linux there isn't as many crashes as there is with > > windows but by the same token, it pays to learn as much about your > > machine as possible because linux isn't going to hand hold anybody > > either. > > First, I want to challenge the notion that the sighted world all uses > X. Many of us (I am a sightling) don't. I will say the majority > due. Perhaps an overwhelming majority do. But the impression I have gotten > when I last went to a Linux User Group in the Dallas area is that many > still use a command shell window within X. > > As for the stability factor, I haven't tried X in about 2 years. But 2 > years ago X had a long way to hve the stability of WIndows 9.x. I know > that is blasphemy, but it is the truth. Perhaps the latest version are > much better. I know that XFree has moved into the 4 series. But don't > think that for a minute XFree 3 is as stable as Windows. I simply isn't, > the good news being that you don't have to take the entire system down to > recover. But if you have to restart the Windows, you have still lost > everything that was running in that session. And it is still unstable. > > I would compare XFree version 3 with Windows version 3. > > ======= > Kirk Wood > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > One of the most overlooked advantages to computers is... If they do > foul up, there's no law against whacking them around a little. > -- Joe Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup