Just a note about the looping sound program I described a couple of days ago: It now supports the "ogg" extension as well as mp3, ra, rm, and wav. It assumes you have ogg123 to play sound files in the ogg vorbis format. Realaudio and mp3 files are reproduced with trplayer, and wav files with the sox "play" script. The program must be compiled with a C++ compiler. Enjoy - Chuck Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (86% of Full)