Not exactly. VMware runs over X, but that doesn't mean you have to do anything in X once it's all set up. The setup itself is not accessible--but then, neither is the Windows setup process accessible. On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Don't you need to use x for vmware? > Greg > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 05:57:32PM -0400, Peter M. Konka wrote: > > Shaun, > > > > Before I installed Linux on my laptop, i had the same question in > > my head. Will there be any possible chance that I can install Windows > > applications under my Linux machine. The answer is yes. You can install > > windows applications under linux. I'm not sure exactly how to do it, but i > > do know that you need a Windows emulator called VM Ware. > > > > Now, the person you should speak to about this is Janina, she > > explained this to me before. > > > > From my understanding about this Windows eumlator, it basically > > turns Linux into windows, and allows you to install any windows > > applications or drivers. > > > > At the moment, i installed Linux on my brand new Toshiba > > laptop. I am running Linux on a dual boot on this laptop, because > > I wasn't sure if my drivers or hardare rather would be compatible at > > all... I heard a lot of good things about linux, and if i learn how to use > > it, i am thinking of switching from Windows to linux on this machine. And > > I have other 2 machines at home and work, which the one at work I am > > thinking of backing up my information and formatting the drive clean and > > isntalling Linux as the only operating syste. And I will also do that on > > one of the systems at home. > > > > I will keep a Windows machine just in case. But i have a feeling that > > linux will become my new favorite operating system other then dos. > > > > --- Peter > > > > At 11:28 PM 8/25/01 +1000, you wrote: > > >I've been following this thread for a while. and haven't decided to say > > >something until now. > > >I'm of the oppinion that linux as an operating system accessable to the > > >blind, is streets ahead of it's comercial counterparts. > > >I say this because as a user of both operating systems, I can see the place > > >for both of them. I find that windows in a normal office environment is a > > >very powerful tool indeed. However, if I could have the power of linux and > > >the ease of use of windows all rolled into one, I'd be a very happy camper. > > >I mean I'd like the nice frilly bits of microsoft word and excell and all > > >that but right at the moment, I haven't seen gpl console versions of either. > > >Linux is a great workhorse especially if you want to run it as a server box > > >or as a firewall, but I want the durrability of linux with the ease of use > > >of windows but I guess for now I'll just have to learn how to use linux to > > >it's full potential. > > >Don't get me wrong here, I'm not complaining, just stating how I feel on the > > >whole issue. > > >Shaun.. > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > >Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > > >http://www.eboom.com/free/ > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <chuckh at mhonline.net> > > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:59 PM > > >Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux > > > > > > > > > > Charlie and all - > > > > > > > > Your remarks about DOS are interesting - I was a DOS fan too and actually > > > > never moved to Windows, except to support my Arkenstone Open Book Unbound > > > > software. My machine is presently a dual boot machine so I can se Linux to > > > > get work done or else at boot time select DOS (I use the Caldera > > > > OpenDOS) to use my scanner software and one or two other legacy apps. > > > > > > > > If you remember when DOS was introduced in the early 80s, version 1.X was > > > > a lot like CP/M; as it was revised to 2.X and then 3.X, it gradually > > > > became a lot more like Unix than CP/M, with a hierarchical file system, > > > > batch files, and then later versions even had online help. > > > > > > > > Now that should tell you something: namely, that Unix was a mature > > > > standard for text consoles even in the early 80s when DOS was being forged > > > > in Redmond. Linux of course is an Open Source and contemporary > > > > implementation of Unix, and is therefore a decade ahead of the game > > > > compared to DOS. > > > > > > > > Linux is also a fundamentally dual personality system, with its GUI being > > > > a robust add-on to the underlying text based console system. > > > > > > > > Linux was created as Open Source on the internet and is maintained and > > > > developed there. It is a fundamental mistake to think of it in the same > > > > market terms as the other major OS. Of course there is no market for Linux > > > > accessibility solutions. But there are users and there is need, and that > > > > need is being met by and large without benefit of market concepts. > > > > > > > > How do people make a living in the Open Source world? By selling services, > > > > not products. Products in the Open Source world are organic things. They > > > > take root, they grow, they live or die on their merits, and they both give > > > > to and take from their users. There would be no Speakup if it were > > > > conceived on a marketing model of accessibility solutions, trust me on > > > > that one. > > > > > > > > So - don't worry about Linux, it is in there for the long haul. > > > > > > > > I was recently tempted to spring for a preinstalled Linux system when I > > > > last upgraded, but opted for the "rolling my own" solution. I am convinced > > > > that if I had plunked down for a package deal I would have ended up > > > > overhauling it anyway. > > > > > > > > Will Linux ever be a mass market product suitable for the people who check > > > > their email once a week and want their machine to do what they want, and > > > > not what they say? Probably not. There may always be a niche for a > > > > Windows-type OS with its closely guarded secrets and predatory practices, > > > > with all the insides protected from meddling users and all the decision > > > > details already made for them. > > > > > > > > Best regards - and welcome to the list! > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (46% of Full) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? 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