Yeah, I've downloaded that too and had a look at it. This is not what I would consider a usable x speech program. Also, from what I've heard, development on it has stopped due to the lack of programmers willing to work on it, what a shame. It looks promising if it would just get some more work done on it. Greg ---- Original Message ------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:22:59 +1000 Hi there is an x screen review package but I've had god's own job getting it to work. it's called ultrasonix but as I said, I had loads of trouble trying to get it to work. I might give it a go again one day after I've finished my studies but right at the moment, I've got alot on my plate. Shaun.. ------------------------------------ Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! http://www.eboom.com/free/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <romualt@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux > I don't think we'll see what > you describe until there is an > x speech server. > This would of course give us the ease of use of windows > (no more commands, just menus), and it would give us > access to staroffice and other things. > When that happens, Linux will be on an equal footing with windows > (if not farther) in terms of speech access. > Greg > On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 11:28:36PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote: >> I've been following this thread for a while. and haven't decided to say >> something until now. >> I'm of the oppinion that linux as an operating system accessable to the >> blind, is streets ahead of it's comercial counterparts. >> I say this because as a user of both operating systems, I can see the place >> for both of them. I find that windows in a normal office environment is a >> very powerful tool indeed. However, if I could have the power of linux and >> the ease of use of windows all rolled into one, I'd be a very happy camper. >> I mean I'd like the nice frilly bits of microsoft word and excell and all >> that but right at the moment, I haven't seen gpl console versions of either. >> Linux is a great workhorse especially if you want to run it as a server box >> or as a firewall, but I want the durrability of linux with the ease of use >> of windows but I guess for now I'll just have to learn how to use linux to >> it's full potential. >> Don't get me wrong here, I'm not complaining, just stating how I feel on the >> whole issue. >> Shaun.. >> ------------------------------------ >> Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! >> http://www.eboom.com/free/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <chuckh at mhonline.net >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux >>> Charlie and all - >>> Your remarks about DOS are interesting - I was a DOS fan too and actually >>> never moved to Windows, except to support my Arkenstone Open Book Unbound >>> software. My machine is presently a dual boot machine so I can se Linux to >>> get work done or else at boot time select DOS (I use the Caldera >>> OpenDOS) to use my scanner software and one or two other legacy apps. >>> If you remember when DOS was introduced in the early 80s, version 1.X was >>> a lot like CP/M; as it was revised to 2.X and then 3.X, it gradually >>> became a lot more like Unix than CP/M, with a hierarchical file system, >>> batch files, and then later versions even had online help. >>> Now that should tell you something: namely, that Unix was a mature >>> standard for text consoles even in the early 80s when DOS was being forged >>> in Redmond. Linux of course is an Open Source and contemporary >>> implementation of Unix, and is therefore a decade ahead of the game >>> compared to DOS. >>> Linux is also a fundamentally dual personality system, with its GUI being >>> a robust add-on to the underlying text based console system. >>> Linux was created as Open Source on the internet and is maintained and >>> developed there. It is a fundamental mistake to think of it in the same >>> market terms as the other major OS. Of course there is no market for Linux >>> accessibility solutions. But there are users and there is need, and that >>> need is being met by and large without benefit of market concepts. >>> How do people make a living in the Open Source world? By selling services, >>> not products. Products in the Open Source world are organic things. They >>> take root, they grow, they live or die on their merits, and they both give >>> to and take from their users. There would be no Speakup if it were >>> conceived on a marketing model of accessibility solutions, trust me on >>> that one. >>> So - don't worry about Linux, it is in there for the long haul. >>> I was recently tempted to spring for a preinstalled Linux system when I >>> last upgraded, but opted for the "rolling my own" solution. I am convinced >>> that if I had plunked down for a package deal I would have ended up >>> overhauling it anyway. >>> Will Linux ever be a mass market product suitable for the people who check >>> their email once a week and want their machine to do what they want, and >>> not what they say? Probably not. There may always be a niche for a >>> Windows-type OS with its closely guarded secrets and predatory practices, >>> with all the insides protected from meddling users and all the decision >>> details already made for them. >>> Best regards - and welcome to the list! >>> Chuck >>> Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh >>> The Moon is Waxing Crescent (46% of Full) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
