Hi there is an x screen review package but I've had god's own job getting it to work. it's called ultrasonix but as I said, I had loads of trouble trying to get it to work. I might give it a go again one day after I've finished my studies but right at the moment, I've got alot on my plate. Shaun.. ------------------------------------ Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! http://www.eboom.com/free/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <romualt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux > I don't think we'll see what > you describe until there is an > x speech server. > This would of course give us the ease of use of windows > (no more commands, just menus), and it would give us > access to staroffice and other things. > When that happens, Linux will be on an equal footing with windows > (if not farther) in terms of speech access. > Greg > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 11:28:36PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote: > > I've been following this thread for a while. and haven't decided to say > > something until now. > > I'm of the oppinion that linux as an operating system accessable to the > > blind, is streets ahead of it's comercial counterparts. > > I say this because as a user of both operating systems, I can see the place > > for both of them. I find that windows in a normal office environment is a > > very powerful tool indeed. However, if I could have the power of linux and > > the ease of use of windows all rolled into one, I'd be a very happy camper. > > I mean I'd like the nice frilly bits of microsoft word and excell and all > > that but right at the moment, I haven't seen gpl console versions of either. > > Linux is a great workhorse especially if you want to run it as a server box > > or as a firewall, but I want the durrability of linux with the ease of use > > of windows but I guess for now I'll just have to learn how to use linux to > > it's full potential. > > Don't get me wrong here, I'm not complaining, just stating how I feel on the > > whole issue. > > Shaun.. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > > http://www.eboom.com/free/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <chuckh at mhonline.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:59 PM > > Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux > > > > > > > Charlie and all - > > > > > > Your remarks about DOS are interesting - I was a DOS fan too and actually > > > never moved to Windows, except to support my Arkenstone Open Book Unbound > > > software. My machine is presently a dual boot machine so I can se Linux to > > > get work done or else at boot time select DOS (I use the Caldera > > > OpenDOS) to use my scanner software and one or two other legacy apps. > > > > > > If you remember when DOS was introduced in the early 80s, version 1.X was > > > a lot like CP/M; as it was revised to 2.X and then 3.X, it gradually > > > became a lot more like Unix than CP/M, with a hierarchical file system, > > > batch files, and then later versions even had online help. > > > > > > Now that should tell you something: namely, that Unix was a mature > > > standard for text consoles even in the early 80s when DOS was being forged > > > in Redmond. Linux of course is an Open Source and contemporary > > > implementation of Unix, and is therefore a decade ahead of the game > > > compared to DOS. > > > > > > Linux is also a fundamentally dual personality system, with its GUI being > > > a robust add-on to the underlying text based console system. > > > > > > Linux was created as Open Source on the internet and is maintained and > > > developed there. It is a fundamental mistake to think of it in the same > > > market terms as the other major OS. Of course there is no market for Linux > > > accessibility solutions. But there are users and there is need, and that > > > need is being met by and large without benefit of market concepts. > > > > > > How do people make a living in the Open Source world? By selling services, > > > not products. Products in the Open Source world are organic things. They > > > take root, they grow, they live or die on their merits, and they both give > > > to and take from their users. There would be no Speakup if it were > > > conceived on a marketing model of accessibility solutions, trust me on > > > that one. > > > > > > So - don't worry about Linux, it is in there for the long haul. > > > > > > I was recently tempted to spring for a preinstalled Linux system when I > > > last upgraded, but opted for the "rolling my own" solution. I am convinced > > > that if I had plunked down for a package deal I would have ended up > > > overhauling it anyway. > > > > > > Will Linux ever be a mass market product suitable for the people who check > > > their email once a week and want their machine to do what they want, and > > > not what they say? Probably not. There may always be a niche for a > > > Windows-type OS with its closely guarded secrets and predatory practices, > > > with all the insides protected from meddling users and all the decision > > > details already made for them. > > > > > > Best regards - and welcome to the list! > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (46% of Full) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >
