Hi: It is possible that you're having a firewall issue here at your end, though I doubt it since sfspeaker does invoke the busy sound. You can verify this by connecting to lwl.braille.uwo.ca (default port ) and seeing if the echo server works for you. What I suspect though is that with all the mucking around that's been done lately in CVS, something broke for point to point. Frankly, this aspect has not really been tested. Of course, if neither of you have the CVS version then that's a different story. Geoff.