Nope, his sf-ans file is there and executes properly, or at least it executes. I have examined its contents, and it seems to be a domain name translation of my own IP, something or other ending with .termserve" as I recall. The -b switch specifies a .au file to return to the caller in the event the local site is already engaged in a connection, and in fact Lee is hearing that busy.au file in response to his execution of sf-ans. I have made security on my own system, and I temporarily loosened them thinking that perhaps I was denying him access to my own system, but it made no difference. Both his version and my version of speak_freely are the most recent CVS versions and they both work correctly on the reflector. Here is another strange clue though: after we each run our scripts to run sfspeaker, and before we do anything else, neither of has an sf-ans file. After I connect to him with sfmike, he has one that appears correct. when he executes it, he gets the busy.au file, which is a standard phone company busy signal, and on my system an sf-ans file is created, but it appears wrong. In place of a domain name for the caller, it contains "localhost". I am surprised to find that one has been created at all on my system, but doubly surprised that it contains localhost as the domain name. Is anybody using speak_freely for user to user connections to your knowledge? I would be assured if I knew it worked that way for others, which means there would be hope I could make it do so too. Any more guesses? I am drawing a blank. Chuck On 6 Apr 2001, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Hi Chuck: I am not positive about this but it looks to me as though > the ./sf-ans file which is getting created when you connect to him on > his system is being rm'd by that line before his system gets down to > the new sfspeaker so there isn't one for him to connect back to you. > Just a guess though. I am not sure just how the -v flag operates so I > can't comment on that. > > Kirk > > My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (99% of Full)