Hi Chuck: I am not positive about this but it looks to me as though the ./sf-ans file which is getting created when you connect to him on his system is being rm'd by that line before his system gets down to the new sfspeaker so there isn't one for him to connect back to you. Just a guess though. I am not sure just how the -v flag operates so I can't comment on that. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061