Since Speakup is a kernel patch, basically to upgrade it, you need to make and install a new kernel. So first you'd just patch the kernel with V0.09, then run make oldconfig make bzImage etc. ... Install the new kernel and reboot from that. If you have a V0.08 install disk, go ahead and install with that so you have a talking system, then patch the kernel and build a new one. If you want to make new boot disks, I suppose you can do them but with a V0.09 Speakup kernel. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: davros at ycardz.com Voice mail: 877-791-5298 All opinions are all mine!