I got a message from someone who is trying to load zipspeak and gets a kernel pannic no matter what he chooses to point to his screen tells him that his drive is hda which is fine but the error he is getting seems to be associated with vfs. any info I can pass along to him while we await his joining of the list would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Hands-On Technolog(eye)s ftp://poehlman.clark.net http://poehlman.clark.net mailto:poehlman at clark.net voice 301-949-7599 end sig.