I don't think we should have a copy of RealPlayer on the Speakup FTP site, because the RealPlayer license agreement says "redistribution not permitted". Besides that, if we don't go to RealNetworks' site to download the player, they don't get a chance to sell us RealPlayer Plus. OK, so I'm clearly on RealNetworks' side. I guess I feel more accountable to them now because I'm developing something with their technology, under their license agreement. -- Matt Campbell <mattcamp at crosswinds.net> Web site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/ ICQ #: 33005941