Re: Oxford Espresso support?

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On 03/16/2015 06:33 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Peter Hurley <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> Can I ask why you're using TIOCMIWAIT rather than the Linux PPS api?
>> Perhaps the kernel api needs extended to support other requirements?
> 
> Short answer: the question about TIOCMIWAIT support is really about
> whether hardware like the Oxford Expresso can pass through
> handshake-line transitions in a form Linux can see.

I deduced that earlier, before I pointed you at your own page :)

http://www.catb.org/gpsd/gpsd-time-service-howto.html

> If that isn't true,
> the PPS API won't work either. My research suggests this is an issue
> with some popular multiport cards like the Comtrol Rocketport that
> soft-emulate multiple UARTs in firmware.
> 
> The longer answer is...it's complicated.
> 
> GPSD actually supports both methods.  We haven't switched over to
> the PPS API fully because RFC2783 is a touch underspecified and doesn't
> say how to do association from the tty to the associated PPS device 
> portably, and we're not only concerned with Linux. The maintainer for
> our PPS code, Gary Miller, is working the problem.
> 
> The test lab I'm designing is intended for the reference NTP
> implementation as well as (or more than) GPSD.  NTP (and GPSD)
> need to retain the option to *explicitly* wait on DCD for
> operating systems like old legacy Unixes or VxWorks or QNX that
> don't include RFC2783 but might turn out to have a functional
> equivalent of TIOCMIWAIT to wait on handshake lines when we dig
> enough. While these are only of minor importance for GPSD, NTP
> has a lot of legacy customers.
> 
> One of the things I did last week was factor the TIOCMIWAIT/RFC2738
> handling in GPSD into a detachable little library that can be plugged
> into other programs, with NTP first on the list.  I'm pretty sure Gary's
> pulse-discrimination code is the best there is, and this is a problem
> that should only be solved once.  

Thanks for the overview; I (wrongly) assumed GPSD was already doing
this.

Regards,
Peter Hurley

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