[+cc Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@xxxxxxx> who I think wrote the wakeup.c code] Hi Alan, Paul, On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:10:36PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:56:03 -0800 >> Simon Glass <sjg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > Since serial_core now does not make serial ports wake-up capable by >> > default, add a parameter to support this feature in the 8250 UART. >> > This is the only UART where I think this feature is useful. >> >> NAK >> >> Things should just work for users. Magic parameters is not an >> improvement. If its a performance problem someone needs to fix the rcu >> sync overhead or stop using rcu on that path. OK fair enough, I agree. Every level I move down the source tree affects more people though. > > I must say that I lack context here, even after looking at the patch, > but the synchronize_rcu_expedited() primitives can be used if the latency > of synchronize_rcu() is too large. > Let me provide a bit of context. The serial_core code seems to be the only place in the kernel that does this: device_init_wakeup(tty_dev, 1); device_set_wakeup_enable(tty_dev, 0); The first call makes the device wakeup capable and enables wakeup, The second call disabled wakeup. The code that removes the wakeup source looks like this: void wakeup_source_remove(struct wakeup_source *ws) { if (WARN_ON(!ws)) return; spin_lock_irq(&events_lock); list_del_rcu(&ws->entry); spin_unlock_irq(&events_lock); synchronize_rcu(); } The sync is there because we are about to destroy the actual ws structure (in wakeup_source_destroy()). I wonder if it should be in wakeup_source_destroy() but that wouldn't help me anyway. synchronize_rcu_expedited() is a bit faster but not really fast enough. Anyway surely people will complain if I put this in the wakeup code - it will affect all wakeup users. It seems to me that the right solution is to avoid enabling and then immediately disabling wakeup. I assume we can't and shouldn't change device_init_wakeup() . We could add a call like device_init_wakeup_disabled() which makes the device wakeup capable but does not actually enable it. Does that work? Regards, Simon > Thanx, Paul > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-serial" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html