On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:02:10PM -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 14:04 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:29:45PM -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > > > On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 16:30 +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote: > > > > On 05/26/15 08:57, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > > > > > @@ -625,6 +626,7 @@ int core_dev_add_initiator_node_lun_acl( > > > > > u32 lun_access) > > > > > { > > > > > struct se_node_acl *nacl = lacl->se_lun_nacl; > > > > > + struct se_device *dev = lockless_dereference(lun->lun_se_dev); > > > > > > > > > > if (!nacl) > > > > > return -EINVAL; > > > > > > > > An attempt to run this code on a system with RCU debugging enabled > > > > resulted in the following complaint: > > > > > > > > =============================== > > > > [ INFO: suspicious RCU usage. ] > > > > 4.1.0-rc1-lio-dbg+ #1 Not tainted > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > drivers/target/target_core_device.c:617 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage! > > > > > > > > other info that might help us debug this: > > > > > > > > > > > > rcu_scheduler_active = 1, debug_locks = 1 > > > > 2 locks held by ln/1497: > > > > #0: (sb_writers#11){.+.+.+}, at: [<ffffffff811d9ca4>] mnt_want_write+0x24/0x50 > > > > #1: (&sb->s_type->i_mutex_key#14/1){+.+.+.}, at: [<ffffffff811c4cdd>] filename_create+0xad/0x1a0 > > > > > > > > stack backtrace: > > > > CPU: 0 PID: 1497 Comm: ln Not tainted 4.1.0-rc1-lio-dbg+ #1 > > > > Hardware name: Bochs Bochs, BIOS Bochs 01/01/2011 > > > > 0000000000000001 ffff88005955bd68 ffffffff814fa346 0000000000000011 > > > > ffff880058bf1270 ffff88005955bd98 ffffffff810ab235 ffff880050db9a68 > > > > ffff880058ae2e68 0000000000000002 ffff880058ae4120 ffff88005955be08 > > > > Call Trace: > > > > [<ffffffff814fa346>] dump_stack+0x4f/0x7b > > > > [<ffffffff810ab235>] lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0xd5/0x110 > > > > [<ffffffffa04324bc>] core_dev_add_initiator_node_lun_acl+0xec/0x190 [target_core_mod] > > > > [<ffffffff8108f871>] ? get_parent_ip+0x11/0x50 > > > > [<ffffffffa04346f9>] target_fabric_mappedlun_link+0x129/0x240 [target_core_mod] > > > > [<ffffffffa043466c>] ? target_fabric_mappedlun_link+0x9c/0x240 [target_core_mod] > > > > [<ffffffffa035824d>] configfs_symlink+0x13d/0x360 [configfs] > > > > [<ffffffff811be8c8>] vfs_symlink+0x58/0xb0 > > > > [<ffffffff811c75c5>] SyS_symlink+0x65/0xc0 > > > > [<ffffffff81502eb2>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x7a > > > > > > > > > > In this particular case, the se_device behind se_lun->lun_se_dev > > > __rcu protected pointer can't be released without first releasing the > > > pre-existing se_lun->lun_group reference to se_device->dev_group. > > > > > > And since se_lun->lun_group is the source of a configfs symlink to > > > se_lun_acl->se_lun_group here, the se_lun associated RCU pointer and > > > underlying se_device can't be released out from under the above > > > target_fabric_mappedlun_link() code accessing a __rcu protected pointer. > > > > > > Paul, is lockless_dereference the correct notation for this type of > > > use-case..? > > > > My guess is "no", but I don't claim to understand your use case. > > > > The splat is against some other code than the patch, judging by the > > patch line numbers. > > > > The rule is that if a pointer points to something that is freed (or > > reused) after a grace period, you mark that pointer with __rcu. > > Any access to that pointer must then be accessed in an RCU read-side > > critical section, using one of the RCU list iterators or one of the > > rcu_dereference() macros. No lockless_dereference() in this case. > > > > You use lockless_dereference() when something other than RCU controls > > when the pointer target is freed. > > For this case, there is a pointer with __rcu notation being > dereferenced, but given the way configfs parent/child config_group > reference counting works, it's impossible for this __rcu pointer to be > modified, and impossible for RCU updater path (-> kfree_rcu) of the > structure being dereferenced to run, while this particular code is > executed. > > So I was thinking this should be using something like > rcu_dereference_protected(), but from the comment it sounds like this is > intended only for RCU updater path code. If something is preventing the pointer from changing, then it is OK to use rcu_dereference_protected(). If the pointer might change, then you are right, you absolutely cannot use rcu_dereference_protected(), as it does not protect against concurrent updates. If reasonably possible, you should pass a reference-held expression to rcu_dereference_protected(). > Is there some other notation to use for this type of case where the RCU > updater path can't run due to external reference counting, or should > this not be using __rcu notation at all..? You should be OK with rcu_dereference_protected(). However, for rcu_dereference_protected() to work properly, it must be the case that the pointer it is reading doesn't change. So you do have to be a bit careful. For example, if structure A has a reference held so that it cannot be removed at the moment, but if it points to some structure B that -can- be removed, then you cannot use rcu_dereference_protected() to access the pointer from A to B because that pointer could change. For another example, assume that structures C and D both have references held (and thus cannot be removed), and that structure C points to structure D. But if a structure E could be inserted between C and D, we -cannot- use rcu_dereference_protected() because the pointer from C to D could change at any time, despite both C and D being nailed down. In other words, the distinction is whether or not a given pointer can change, not whether or not the enclosing structure is guaranteed to live. Make sense? Thanx, Paul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html