> -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas Henzl [mailto:thenzl@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:14 AM > To: Miller, Mike (OS Dev) > Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx; scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Andrew Morton; > LKML; LKML-scsi; Jens Axboe > Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/16] hpsa: do readl after writel in main i/o path > to ensure commands don't get lost. > > On 05/25/2011 05:20 PM, Miller, Mike (OS Dev) wrote: > > Tomas wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tomas Henzl [mailto:thenzl@xxxxxxxxxx] > >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 6:38 AM > >> To: Miller, Mike (OS Dev) > >> Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx; scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Andrew > Morton; > >> LKML; LKML-scsi; Jens Axboe > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/16] hpsa: do readl after writel in main i/o > path > >> to ensure commands don't get lost. > >> > >> On 05/05/2011 08:35 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:54:22PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx > >>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:37:35 MDT, Matthew Wilcox said: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> This probably needs a comment like > >>>>>> /* don't care - dummy read just to force write posting to > chipset > >>>>>> > >> */ > >> > >>>>>> or similar. I'm assuming it's just functioning as a barrier-type > >>>>>> > >> flush of some sort? > >> > >>>>>> > >>>>> It's a PCI write flush. It's not clear to me why it's needed > here, > >>>>> though. The write will eventually get to the device; why we need > to > >>>>> make the CPU wait around for it to actually get there doesn't make > >>>>> > >> sense. > >> > >>>>> > >>>> Exactly why I think it needs a one-liner comment. :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> So we're not exactly sure why it's needed either. We've had reports > of > >>> commands getting "lost" or "stuck" under some workloads. The extra > >>> > >> readl > >> > >>> works around the issue but certainly may have negative side effects. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure I understand how writel works. > >>> > >>> From linux-2.6/arch/x86/include/asm/io.h: > >>> > >>> #define build_mmio_write(name, size, type, reg, barrier) \ > >>> static inline void name(type val, volatile void __iomem *addr) \ > >>> { asm volatile("mov" size " %0,%1": :reg (val), \ > >>> "m" (*(volatile type __force *)addr) barrier); } > >>> > >>> This implies (at least to me) that a barrier is part of writel. I > >>> > >> don't know > >> > >>> why a write operation needs a barrier but thats essentially what > we've > >>> > >> done > >> > >>> by adding the extra readl. Can someone confirm or deny that a > barrier > >>> > >> is > >> > >>> actually built into writel? Or used by writel? If so, does this > >>> > >> indicate > >> > >>> that barrier is broken? > >>> > >>> At this point we (the software guys) are pretty much at a loss as to > >>> > >> how to > >> > >>> continue debugging. We don't know what to trigger on for the PCIe > >>> > >> analyzer. > >> > >>> If we track outstanding commands then trigger on one that doesn't > >>> > >> complete in > >> > >>> some amount of time the problem could conceivably be far in the past > >>> > >> and > >> > >>> difficult to correlate to the data in the trace. > >>> > >>> > >> I'd look at the firmware part, you could check what happens for > example > >> when > >> the firmware gets send a command it doesn't understand. > >> You could also change the communication with the fw by adding a count > >> field, which can > >> be then checked for the !(next_value == previous_value + 1) and raise > an > >> event. > >> tomas > >> > > Tomas, > > We've tried something very similar to the counter idea in fw. It > doesn't help because the controller thinks he's done with the request. > We have a (pretty crude) counter in the driver but no timing mechanism. > We could add a timer. But what's a suitable timeout value? Is 2 seconds > too short, too long? Suggestions, please. > > > I know that a counter isn't a ground-breaking idea, just wanted to show > some interest :) :) > The command can be either eaten by the firmware or during the > communication in or out from the device. > I'd would start by the communication, by adding some fields to the > command to detect if a command in the row(s) isn't > missing - I know even that isn't easy. The same could be done > independently done for the other direction. > > tomash Thanks, Tomas. > > > -- mikem > > > > > > > >> > >> > >>> If anyone has any thoughts, suggestions, or flames they would be > >>> > >> greatly > >> > >>> appreciated. > >>> > >>> -- mikem > >>> -- > >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux- > scsi" > >>> > >> in > >> > >>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > >>> > >>> > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html