Hi Geert, On 13/04/18 11:19, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Eric, > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 11/04/18 11:24, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >>> If a device is part of a PM Domain (e.g. power and/or clock domain), its >>> power state is managed using Runtime PM. Without Runtime PM, the device >>> may not be powered up, causing subtle failures, crashes, or system >>> lock-ups when the device is accessed by the guest. >> the device may not be powered up/clcoked or power/clock may be switched >> off while the guest uses it. >>> >>> Fix this by adding Runtime PM support, powering the device when the VFIO >>> device is opened by the guest. >>> >>> Note that while more fine-grained power management could be implemented >>> on the guest side, if exported, this would be inherently unsafe, as >>> abusing it may kill the whole system. >> >> Please can you elaborate on this remark please? > > If power-management of the device would be delegated to the guest, and the > guest forgets to enable device power before accessing the device's registers, > this could lock up the system, and thus disturb both the host and other guests. Wouldn't you need to assign another device or use para-virt to allow the guest to perform this power management control? I think you can remove this paragraph from the commit message. Thanks Eric > > Gr{oetje,eeting}s, > > Geert >