Re: [PATCH v3 00/13] Request for Comments on SoftiWarp

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On 9/13/2018 2:01 PM, Steve Wise wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/13/2018 1:54 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 01:03:42PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/2018 12:19 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:05:27PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/25/2018 2:05 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/1/2018 11:18 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:29:04AM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe to add a network interface to a soft-rdma device like rxe, we
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> create a syntax like this:
>>>>>>>>>>> rdma link set rxe_eth0 dev eth0
>>>>>>>>>> More like:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> rdma link add rxe_eth0 type rxe dev eth0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'type rxe' triggers the kernel to dispatch to the rxe or siw driver to
>>>>>>>>>> create the interface.
>>>>>>>>> Type doesn't sound right though.  in the current rdma synax, it would be
>>>>>>>>> 'dev'.  Maybe:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rdma link add rxe_eth0 dev rxe netdev eth0
>>>>>>>> Type is the consistent tag with 'ip link add'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm starting to think about how to implement 'rdma link add/delete' for
>>>>>>> rxe.  Does it make sense to add new members to the rdma_nldev_command
>>>>>>> enum in include/uapi/rdma/rdma_netlink.h for adding and deleting
>>>>>>> soft-rdma links to netdev interfaces?  Something like
>>>>>>> RDMA_NLDEV_CMD_LINK_ADD and RDMA_NLDEV_CMD_LINK_DEL?  Then add handlers
>>>>>>> to the nldev_cb_table array in drivers/infiniband/core/nldev.c.    Can
>>>>>>> we assume there is only one soft-rdma driver for each rdma transport? 
>>>>>>> That would enable a simple core->driver dispatch via an array of
>>>>>>> driver-specific handler functions that are indexed by the soft-rdma
>>>>>>> transport type.  Or do we need something more general? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just thinking out loud here.  What do you all think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may as well follow the pattern ip link add uses..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See struct rtnl_link_ops ipoib_link_ops 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This way we can keep rxe as a module without creating a link time
>>>>>> dependency on the core module.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Core code should match the 'type' tag with the '.kind' string member
>>>>>> just as ip does, and should pas a netlink attrs bundle in to the callback
>>>>>> like ip, see ipoib_new_child_link()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The result should return the rdma id and name of the newly created
>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the rxe driver just register with an actual rtnl_link_ops? And
>>>>> use that rtnl core facility to dispatch callbacks?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or should we create a similar rdma_link_ops struct that includes the
>>>>> '.kind' and other appropriate fields, and have our own dispatcher in
>>>>> drivers/infiniband/core?  Seems like we could simplify it some some...
>>>>
>>>> I think we have to do this to get the proper command line
>>>> interface.. Otherwise in userspace you have to parse the kind and
>>>> send a unique per driver message..
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not advocating using RTM_NEWLINK, but just so we're on the same
>>> page: that infrastructure does already have a IFLA_INFO_KIND attribute.
>>> So our'rdma link add' could build and send an RTM_NEWLINK message and
>>> the net/rtnetlink.c core code would dispatch to whoever registered with
>>> .kind == 'rxe'.  (and in the future .kind = 'siw' :) ).
>>
>> RTM_NEWLINK is only for creating netdevices..
>>
>>> So I don't understand your comment about user space having to send a
>>> unique per-driver message? It would be a common RTM_NEWLINK message, but
>>> INFO_KIND attribute would identify the rdma driver.  Am I missing
>>> something (probably)?
>>
>> We need a RDMA_NEWLINK with a RDMALA_INFO_KIND string that dispatches
>> to the right driver
>>
>>> Regardless, I would rather create an rdma-specific message and
>>> supporting structs/attributes to keep it simple.  I mean these links are
>>> not 'ip link' netdev links.  They are rdma links...
>>
>> Yes, rdma specific, but RDMA driver generic.
>>
>> Jason
>>
> 
> Got it. Thanks Jason!
> 

Since the rdma core currently assigned device name strings, I'm thinking
to just follow that scheme.  This leads to slightly different command
syntax:

rdma link add TYPE dev DEV

EG:  rdma link add rxe dev eth0

Then the kernel would return the resulting ib_device name and index.

Steve.



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