Re: [PATCH v3 00/13] Request for Comments on SoftiWarp

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On 9/13/2018 1:54 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 01:03:42PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2018 12:19 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:05:27PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/25/2018 2:05 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/1/2018 11:18 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:29:04AM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe to add a network interface to a soft-rdma device like rxe, we
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> create a syntax like this:
>>>>>>>>>> rdma link set rxe_eth0 dev eth0
>>>>>>>>> More like:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rdma link add rxe_eth0 type rxe dev eth0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'type rxe' triggers the kernel to dispatch to the rxe or siw driver to
>>>>>>>>> create the interface.
>>>>>>>> Type doesn't sound right though.  in the current rdma synax, it would be
>>>>>>>> 'dev'.  Maybe:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rdma link add rxe_eth0 dev rxe netdev eth0
>>>>>>> Type is the consistent tag with 'ip link add'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm starting to think about how to implement 'rdma link add/delete' for
>>>>>> rxe.  Does it make sense to add new members to the rdma_nldev_command
>>>>>> enum in include/uapi/rdma/rdma_netlink.h for adding and deleting
>>>>>> soft-rdma links to netdev interfaces?  Something like
>>>>>> RDMA_NLDEV_CMD_LINK_ADD and RDMA_NLDEV_CMD_LINK_DEL?  Then add handlers
>>>>>> to the nldev_cb_table array in drivers/infiniband/core/nldev.c.    Can
>>>>>> we assume there is only one soft-rdma driver for each rdma transport? 
>>>>>> That would enable a simple core->driver dispatch via an array of
>>>>>> driver-specific handler functions that are indexed by the soft-rdma
>>>>>> transport type.  Or do we need something more general? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just thinking out loud here.  What do you all think?
>>>>>
>>>>> You may as well follow the pattern ip link add uses..
>>>>>
>>>>> See struct rtnl_link_ops ipoib_link_ops 
>>>>>
>>>>> This way we can keep rxe as a module without creating a link time
>>>>> dependency on the core module.
>>>>>
>>>>> Core code should match the 'type' tag with the '.kind' string member
>>>>> just as ip does, and should pas a netlink attrs bundle in to the callback
>>>>> like ip, see ipoib_new_child_link()
>>>>>
>>>>> The result should return the rdma id and name of the newly created
>>>>> interface.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Should the rxe driver just register with an actual rtnl_link_ops? And
>>>> use that rtnl core facility to dispatch callbacks?
>>>>
>>>> Or should we create a similar rdma_link_ops struct that includes the
>>>> '.kind' and other appropriate fields, and have our own dispatcher in
>>>> drivers/infiniband/core?  Seems like we could simplify it some some...
>>>
>>> I think we have to do this to get the proper command line
>>> interface.. Otherwise in userspace you have to parse the kind and
>>> send a unique per driver message..
>>>
>>
>> I'm not advocating using RTM_NEWLINK, but just so we're on the same
>> page: that infrastructure does already have a IFLA_INFO_KIND attribute.
>> So our'rdma link add' could build and send an RTM_NEWLINK message and
>> the net/rtnetlink.c core code would dispatch to whoever registered with
>> .kind == 'rxe'.  (and in the future .kind = 'siw' :) ).
> 
> RTM_NEWLINK is only for creating netdevices..
> 
>> So I don't understand your comment about user space having to send a
>> unique per-driver message? It would be a common RTM_NEWLINK message, but
>> INFO_KIND attribute would identify the rdma driver.  Am I missing
>> something (probably)?
> 
> We need a RDMA_NEWLINK with a RDMALA_INFO_KIND string that dispatches
> to the right driver
> 
>> Regardless, I would rather create an rdma-specific message and
>> supporting structs/attributes to keep it simple.  I mean these links are
>> not 'ip link' netdev links.  They are rdma links...
> 
> Yes, rdma specific, but RDMA driver generic.
> 
> Jason
> 

Got it. Thanks Jason!




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