Re: [PATCH v3 00/13] Request for Comments on SoftiWarp

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On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 01:03:42PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/13/2018 12:19 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:05:27PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/25/2018 2:05 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/1/2018 11:18 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:29:04AM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Maybe to add a network interface to a soft-rdma device like rxe, we
> >>>>>> could
> >>>>>>> create a syntax like this:
> >>>>>>>> rdma link set rxe_eth0 dev eth0
> >>>>>>> More like:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> rdma link add rxe_eth0 type rxe dev eth0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 'type rxe' triggers the kernel to dispatch to the rxe or siw driver to
> >>>>>>> create the interface.
> >>>>>> Type doesn't sound right though.  in the current rdma synax, it would be
> >>>>>> 'dev'.  Maybe:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> rdma link add rxe_eth0 dev rxe netdev eth0
> >>>>> Type is the consistent tag with 'ip link add'.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm starting to think about how to implement 'rdma link add/delete' for
> >>>> rxe.  Does it make sense to add new members to the rdma_nldev_command
> >>>> enum in include/uapi/rdma/rdma_netlink.h for adding and deleting
> >>>> soft-rdma links to netdev interfaces?  Something like
> >>>> RDMA_NLDEV_CMD_LINK_ADD and RDMA_NLDEV_CMD_LINK_DEL?  Then add handlers
> >>>> to the nldev_cb_table array in drivers/infiniband/core/nldev.c.    Can
> >>>> we assume there is only one soft-rdma driver for each rdma transport? 
> >>>> That would enable a simple core->driver dispatch via an array of
> >>>> driver-specific handler functions that are indexed by the soft-rdma
> >>>> transport type.  Or do we need something more general? 
> >>>>
> >>>> Just thinking out loud here.  What do you all think?
> >>>
> >>> You may as well follow the pattern ip link add uses..
> >>>
> >>> See struct rtnl_link_ops ipoib_link_ops 
> >>>
> >>> This way we can keep rxe as a module without creating a link time
> >>> dependency on the core module.
> >>>
> >>> Core code should match the 'type' tag with the '.kind' string member
> >>> just as ip does, and should pas a netlink attrs bundle in to the callback
> >>> like ip, see ipoib_new_child_link()
> >>>
> >>> The result should return the rdma id and name of the newly created
> >>> interface.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Should the rxe driver just register with an actual rtnl_link_ops? And
> >> use that rtnl core facility to dispatch callbacks?
> >>
> >> Or should we create a similar rdma_link_ops struct that includes the
> >> '.kind' and other appropriate fields, and have our own dispatcher in
> >> drivers/infiniband/core?  Seems like we could simplify it some some...
> > 
> > I think we have to do this to get the proper command line
> > interface.. Otherwise in userspace you have to parse the kind and
> > send a unique per driver message..
> > 
> 
> I'm not advocating using RTM_NEWLINK, but just so we're on the same
> page: that infrastructure does already have a IFLA_INFO_KIND attribute.
> So our'rdma link add' could build and send an RTM_NEWLINK message and
> the net/rtnetlink.c core code would dispatch to whoever registered with
> .kind == 'rxe'.  (and in the future .kind = 'siw' :) ).

RTM_NEWLINK is only for creating netdevices..

> So I don't understand your comment about user space having to send a
> unique per-driver message? It would be a common RTM_NEWLINK message, but
> INFO_KIND attribute would identify the rdma driver.  Am I missing
> something (probably)?

We need a RDMA_NEWLINK with a RDMALA_INFO_KIND string that dispatches
to the right driver

> Regardless, I would rather create an rdma-specific message and
> supporting structs/attributes to keep it simple.  I mean these links are
> not 'ip link' netdev links.  They are rdma links...

Yes, rdma specific, but RDMA driver generic.

Jason



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