> From: Greg KH [mailto:greg at kroah.com] > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:46:25PM -0400, Preece Scott-PREECE wrote: > > > > Well, OSDL is one of several groups formed to try to encourage > > development in areas that its member companies prefer. OSDL has > > topic-specific working groups, which consist of people from member > > companies who are interested in specific technology areas. Those > > working groups meet so they can educate each other, coordinate > > activity, prioritize OSDL's activities on the specific > topics, attempt > > to reach consensus on the direction the members would like to > > encourage, and so forth. > > I for one, am very familiar with what OSDL does, on many > levels, but thanks for the summary :) --- I assumed you were... :-) --- > > > I'm not sure why you think it's outside "the standard process" to > > issue an open invitation to community members to attend a > WG meeting. > > Because kernel development doesn't happen at WG meetings. It > happens when code is posted. To think otherwise is to not > understand the kernel development process. --- So, kernel developers never talk to each other or non-developers except through mailing lists? I don't suppose kernel development happens at OLS, either, but people seem to go anyway. [Well, looking around the OLS sessions, it was clear that some did, but I'm guessing that wasn't the primary intention of bringing people to Canada.] --- ... > > I do however, doubt that a working group meeting is a useful > thing for any kernel developer to spend their time attending, > unless it is at the behalf of their employer. And I say this > as someone who has attended many such meetings at OSDL and > other places. --- Again, kernel developers have no need to get input from people outside the mailing-list community and no interest in sharing information with them? Heads-down coding is the best and highest use of every developer's time (other than, of course, the 100% of time needed to track LKML)? --- > > Again, I will ask these simple questions: > > - Why is the community being invited to such a meeting? --- My assumption was it was (a) intended as a courtesy to involve additional people in what would normally be a members-only meeting and (b) because they wanted an opportunity to speak to and hear from the developers. I'll let Marc or Patrick provide the real answer. --- > - Is there a proposed adgenda so that the community members can > determine if it is worth their time? --- That would be nice (though, if I had a dollar for every meeting I've gone to without a pre-announced agenda, I wouldn't need to go to meetings). Regards, scott