[linux-pm] Re: suspend and hibernate nomenclature

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Thanks for synching us up with another community of interest!

However, I would also say that the user-level nomenclature is only
slightly interesting. In our domain (cell phones), for instance, there
is no user visibility at all, and the interesting internal PM states
are somewhat different (there's no disk and our deepest state has to be
able to resume in 150 ms); all of our states would map into subtle
gradations of your suspend.

That's not necessarily a bad thing - perhaps we need a model with
top-level terms and gradations...

scott

| On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 09:05 -0600, Jordan Crouse wrote:
| > On 07/05/06 19:02 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
| > > First, sorry for the random mail to this mailing list.
| > > 
| > > I'm the developer of gnome-power-manager. The latest mini-project of
| > > mine is to fix the suspend-hibernate nomenclature used by OSS projects.
| > > 
| > > This might not effect the lowest layers of the stack (i.e. I want to
| > > focus on the stuff used by *users*), so this might not be applicable to
| > > you guys. 
| > 
| > I would say thats probably a pretty accurate assessment.  Since you are a GUI
| > developer, you can tell the users whatever you want, and you can translate
| > under the scenes.  In that case, using terms like "hibernate" makes perfect 
| > sense.
| 
| Sure, agreed.
| 
| > But at the lower level, I favor a more clinical terminology, because it
| > reduces confusion amongst system developers. Thats not to say that our 
| > current terminology is sane, (because it isn't), but I would far prefer
| > precise numbers over vague synonyms for sleeping. :)
| 
| Up to you guys :-)
| 
| > *Our* task, as I see it, is to make sure that the underlying descriptions
| > are intelligent and persistent, so *you* don't have to change your 
| > application every time something a new kernel is released.  But as soon as
| > we've figured that out, then it will be no thing for you to take an
| > "hibernate" from the top end, and turn it into the right term for the kernel.
| 
| Sure, I totally agree the user shouldn't know about any of this stuff,
| but I thought I should bring the website to your attention to keep you
| guys in the loop with GUI users... :-)
| 
| Anyway, thanks for this mail, feedback has been great so far.
| 
| Richard.
| 
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