On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 13:06 -0800, Patrick Mochel wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > I totally agree. I think we badly need a PM workshop of some sort, > > either before or after KS/OLS, if possible at the same place, with a > > least a couple of days so we have time to 1) expose all the issues, 2) > > get over the usual misunderstanding, 3) agree on a set of solutions. > > I totally agree. So, how do we do it? You could try to contact usenix maybe ? Or talk to Ted ? > Doing it before KS would be the best, IMO. How long do we want, 1 day? 2 > days? If we take 1 day, we could do it on Sunday, which would require > everyone show up by Saturday (earlier for more recovery time). That would > give us a good 6-14 hours of talk time, with plenty of breaks for food, > beer, sanity, etc. 1 day may not be enough, but we could do one day + a BOF ... > The other thing we need is a venue. Unless we magically got some sort of > sponsorship, and someone stepped forward to organize a location, we need > something for free. What I suggest is that someone get a 'Business Suite' > at Les Suites and we have it there. Ok... Well, afaik, I'll have to go to some random IBM approved hotel, but I'm not sure at this point. > I had one of those rooms 2 years ago, and it included a kitchen, dining > room w/ table/living room w/ couch, an office attached to that. The > bedroom was separate. It was larger than some apartments I've lived in. It > could comfortably seat at least 6-8 people, and we'd have lots of room for > laptops, etc. > > On that note, no matter where we have it, I'd like to limit it to 6-8 > people, with at most maybe 10. I don't wish to exclude anyone, but I think > that smaller groups can remain more focused. Plus, there's all those > sociological studies that say 6-7 people is the optimal size for a > discussion group. :) Us, Nigel, David Brownell, Alan, Pavel, Brown, we are already 7... ? Ben.