On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > I totally agree. I think we badly need a PM workshop of some sort, > either before or after KS/OLS, if possible at the same place, with a > least a couple of days so we have time to 1) expose all the issues, 2) > get over the usual misunderstanding, 3) agree on a set of solutions. I totally agree. So, how do we do it? Doing it before KS would be the best, IMO. How long do we want, 1 day? 2 days? If we take 1 day, we could do it on Sunday, which would require everyone show up by Saturday (earlier for more recovery time). That would give us a good 6-14 hours of talk time, with plenty of breaks for food, beer, sanity, etc. The other thing we need is a venue. Unless we magically got some sort of sponsorship, and someone stepped forward to organize a location, we need something for free. What I suggest is that someone get a 'Business Suite' at Les Suites and we have it there. I had one of those rooms 2 years ago, and it included a kitchen, dining room w/ table/living room w/ couch, an office attached to that. The bedroom was separate. It was larger than some apartments I've lived in. It could comfortably seat at least 6-8 people, and we'd have lots of room for laptops, etc. On that note, no matter where we have it, I'd like to limit it to 6-8 people, with at most maybe 10. I don't wish to exclude anyone, but I think that smaller groups can remain more focused. Plus, there's all those sociological studies that say 6-7 people is the optimal size for a discussion group. :) Pat