On 21/03/23 08:44AM, Alex Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 15:34:19 +0100 > Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thursday 18 March 2021 20:01:55 Amey Narkhede wrote: > > > On 21/03/17 09:13PM, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 17 March 2021 14:00:20 Alex Williamson wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 20:40:24 +0100 > > > > > Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 17 March 2021 13:32:45 Alex Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 20:24:24 +0100 > > > > > > > Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 17 March 2021 13:15:36 Alex Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 20:02:06 +0100 > > > > > > > > > Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 15 March 2021 09:03:39 Alex Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:52:38 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 15 March 2021 08:34:09 Alex Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:52:26 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 15 March 2021 19:13:23 Amey Narkhede wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slot reset (pci_dev_reset_slot_function) and secondary bus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reset(pci_parent_bus_reset) which I think are hot reset and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm reset respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. PCI secondary bus reset = PCIe Hot Reset. Slot reset is just another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > type of reset, which is currently implemented only for PCIe hot plug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bridges and for PowerPC PowerNV platform and it just call PCI secondary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bus reset with some other hook. PCIe Warm Reset does not have API in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kernel and therefore drivers do not export this type of reset via any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kernel function (yet). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm reset is beyond the scope of this series, but could be implemented > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a compatible way to fit within the pci_reset_fn_methods[] array > > > > > > > > > > > > > defined here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that with this series the resets available through > > > > > > > > > > > > > pci_reset_function() and the per device reset attribute is sysfs remain > > > > > > > > > > > > > exactly the same as they are currently. The bus and slot reset > > > > > > > > > > > > > methods used here are limited to devices where only a single function is > > > > > > > > > > > > > affected by the reset, therefore it is not like the patch you proposed > > > > > > > > > > > > > which performed a reset irrespective of the downstream devices. This > > > > > > > > > > > > > series only enables selection of the existing methods. Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But with this patch series, there is still an issue with PCI secondary > > > > > > > > > > > > bus reset mechanism as exported sysfs attribute does not do that > > > > > > > > > > > > remove-reset-rescan procedure. As discussed in other thread, this reset > > > > > > > > > > > > let device in unconfigured / broken state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, there's not: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > int pci_reset_function(struct pci_dev *dev) > > > > > > > > > > > { > > > > > > > > > > > int rc; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (!dev->reset_fn) > > > > > > > > > > > return -ENOTTY; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pci_dev_lock(dev); > > > > > > > > > > > >>> pci_dev_save_and_disable(dev); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rc = __pci_reset_function_locked(dev); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> pci_dev_restore(dev); > > > > > > > > > > > pci_dev_unlock(dev); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > return rc; > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The remove/re-scan was discussed primarily because your patch performed > > > > > > > > > > > a bus reset regardless of what devices were affected by that reset and > > > > > > > > > > > it's difficult to manage the scope where multiple devices are affected. > > > > > > > > > > > Here, the bus and slot reset functions will fail unless the scope is > > > > > > > > > > > limited to the single device triggering this reset. Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking a bit more about it and I'm really sure how it would > > > > > > > > > > behave with hotplugging PCIe bridge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On aardvark PCIe controller I have already tested that secondary bus > > > > > > > > > > reset bit is triggering Hot Reset event and then also Link Down event. > > > > > > > > > > These events are not handled by aardvark driver yet (needs to > > > > > > > > > > implemented into kernel's emulated root bridge code). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I'm not sure how it would behave on real HW PCIe hotplugging bridge. > > > > > > > > > > Kernel has already code which removes PCIe device if it changes presence > > > > > > > > > > bit (and inform via interrupt). And Link Down event triggers this > > > > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the difference between slot and bus resets, the slot reset is > > > > > > > > > implemented by the hotplug controller and disables presence detection > > > > > > > > > around the bus reset. Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but I'm talking about bus reset, not about slot reset. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean: to use bus reset via sysfs on hardware which supports slots and > > > > > > > > hotplugging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if I'm reading code correctly, this combination is allowed, right? > > > > > > > > Via these new patches it is possible to disable slot reset and enable > > > > > > > > bus reset. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's true, a slot reset is simply a bus reset wrapped around code > > > > > > > that prevents the device from getting ejected. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this makes slot reset "safe". But bus reset is "unsafe". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it would make > > > > > > > sense to combine the two as far as this interface is concerned, ie. a > > > > > > > single "bus" reset method that will always use slot reset when > > > > > > > available. Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > That should work when slot reset is available. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other option is that mentioned remove-reset-rescan procedure. > > > > > > > > > > That's not something we can introduce to the pci_reset_function() path > > > > > without a fair bit of collateral in using it through vfio-pci. > > > > > > > > > > > But quick search in drivers/pci/hotplug/ results that not all hotplug > > > > > > drivers implement reset_slot method. > > > > > > > > > > > > So there is a possible issue with hotplug driver which may eject device > > > > > > during bus reset (because e.g. slot reset is not implemented)? > > > > > > > > > > People aren't reporting it, so maybe those controllers aren't being > > > > > used for this use case. Or maybe introducing this patch will make > > > > > these reset methods more readily accessible for testing. We can fix or > > > > > blacklist those controllers for bus reset when reports come in. Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ok! I do not know neither if those controllers are used, but looks like > > > > that there are still changes in hotplug code. > > > > > > > > So I guess with these patches people can test it and report issues when > > > > such thing happen. > > > So after a bit research as I understood we need to group slot > > > and bus reset together in a single category of reset methods and > > > then implicitly use slot reset if it is available when bus reset is > > > enabled by the user. > > > Is that right? > > > > Yes, I understand it in same way. Just I do not know which name to > > choose for this reset category. In PCI spec it is called Secondary Bus > > Reset (as it resets whole bus with all devices; but we allow this reset > > in this patch series only if on the bus is connected exactly one device). > > In PCIe spec it is called Hot Reset. And if kernel detects Slot support > > then kernel currently calls it Slot reset. But it is still same thing. > > Any opinion? I think that we could call it Hot Reset as this patch > > series exports it only for single device (so calling it _bus_ is not the > > best match). > > A similar abstraction where our scope is not limited to a single > function calls this a bus reset: > > int pci_reset_bus(struct pci_dev *pdev) > { > return (!pci_probe_reset_slot(pdev->slot)) ? > __pci_reset_slot(pdev->slot) : __pci_reset_bus(pdev->bus); > } > > Thanks, > Alex > I was going to use similar function int pci_bus_reset(struct pci_dev *dev, int probe) { return pci_dev_reset_slot_function(dev, probe) ? pci_parent_bus_reset(dev, probe) : 0; } Thanks, Amey