On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:00:25PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:30 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 06:07:50PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: > >> What may be confusing you is that scope delimiters are used almost > >> exclusively for link-local addresses, which are valid only on the > >> local host. > >> > >> If you don't want to handle a referral that uses a link-local address, > >> or you don't want to handle a link-local address with a scope ID, then > >> there are explicit checks you can do. > > > > Well, the current code does allow a referral to point to 127.0.0.1. I > > don't know what to think of that; it seems unlikely to be useful for > > anything but testing, and possibly succeptible to abuse, but of course > > the protocol doesn't forbid it. > > Link-local is not the same as loopback. > > A link-local address is an address that is constructed by a > standards-defined method for each active NIC on a host. It is not a > route-able address, so it's good only for the local subnet. It's a > method by which network service is exposed to higher levels in the > network layer without having to use an external service like DHCP. > It's a bootstrap address, more or less. > > > I google around a bit, but still don't get the scope stuff. Are they > > really part of an "ipv6 address"? I thought an ipv6 address was just a > > 128-bit number? (Or do they just give another way of writing something > > that you could already write without the %?) > > Unfortunately good IPv6 documentation is pretty hard to find. There > are a lot of RFCs that specify just a little corner of IPv6 (and even > those usually have corrections or amendments in later RFCs), so it's > difficult to know where to begin. IPv6 is nearly a complete > reconception of the internet, so many IPv4 concepts simply don't > translate. I don't think there's anything equivalent to a scope > delimiter in IPv4. The following is my understanding of how this > works. > > This is really a question of how to map a presentation format address > (a string that represents the numeric form of the address, like > dotted-quad notation) to a sockaddr. OK, but what the v4 rfc says isn't that the fs_location field can contain any representation of a sockaddr; it says that it can contain "a traditional DNS host name, IPv4 address, or IPv6 address." Every definition of "IPv6 address" I can find says that it's just the 128 bits you put in sin6_addr. The scope id field, like a port number, is something in addition. So if we see such a string we should just assume it's garbage. > The sockaddr_sin6 structure has a field for the scope ID, > sin6_scope_id. The % delimits the host address from a string that > identifies a local NIC. You can specify a device name, like "eth0," > or a number, which means the same thing. The number is referred to as > an interface index, or a scope ID. The device name is converted by a > locally-defined mechanism to a scope ID (the numeric equivalent) and > stored in the sin6_scope_id field of a sockaddr_sin6. > > Link-local addresses require a specific NIC to be identified to work > properly, even if there is only a single NIC on the host, since the > "lo" virtual interface also has an interface index. You can also use > a scope ID with a non-link-local address to force which NIC is used. > By and large, these interface indices are not meaningful anywhere but > on the host that has that link-local address assigned to one of its > NICs. OK, so that definitely doesn't sound like something that makes sense outside the client. > It really depends on how the referral hostname string is generated, > but I would say that whatever follows the % should be ignored, or you > could generate a warning or error. So I think we should be harsher and just not attempt to parse a string that looks like this at all. --b. > You can let the existing super.c > address parser handle the '%' and check to see if sin6_scope_id is > non-zero on return (or just zero it unconditionally if you want to > ignore these altogether). If the NFSv4 standard doesn't say anything > about IPv6 interface IDs, then I suppose we are free to treat this any > way we think is reasonable. > > I'm still not quite sure how to handle link-local addresses for NFSv4 > callback, for example. Generally it doesn't make sense to hand the > server an interface ID that is valid only on the client, so mount.nfs > just strips the interface ID when generating the callback IP address > string: it won't pass a scope-delimited presentation format address in > the clientaddr= option. > > For a link-local callback address, the server then must determine > which of its own interfaces it must use to contact the client via that > link-local address, and append it via a % or by setting the > sin6_scope_id field. Or it can simply decide not to call a client > back that passed it a link-local address as a callback address. > > -- > Chuck Lever -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html