* Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > See for example what happened in linux-next today: Voyager broke > x86 and didnt even build, and Stephen had to keep it out of > today's linux-next build. I also took a look at that tree: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/voyager-2.6.git master A couple of quick, mostly high-level observations: 1) The Voyager bits got rebased _yesterday_. _All_ the commits: commit 0ff51d1467af91bca4210b0d09372b6e7ded7524 Author: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> AuthorDate: Mon Feb 23 15:02:04 2009 -0600 Commit: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> CommitDate: Mon Jun 8 09:49:08 2009 -0500 I told James before that he should _not_ rebase: http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/2/1/76 In no uncertain terms. He completely ignored me and he messes up trees that way again. Now i should pull such a damaged tree while all the other x86 contributors we pull from do a thorough job? ( And note that the above link points to _another_ similar incident, where James rebased a tree and broke the build. It is a pattern of behavior. ) 2) The tree structure is unacceptable: a087b5f: [VOYAGER] x86: add prefill_possible_map to x86_quirks f5ef55a: [VOYAGER] x86/mca: make mca_nmi_hook external 55c8430: [VOYAGER] x86: add {safe,hard}_smp_processor_id to smp_ops fd1ab45: Revert "MAINTAINERS - Remove x86/Voyager no longer in tree" 0ff51d1: Revert "x86: remove the Voyager 32-bit subarch" That is crap. It starts with a huge 'revert' - which of course breaks the tree and needs 16 commits to bring back into action. It might be OK to _revive_ the source code that way privately - but the history completely incorrectly suggests a 'revert'. We revert buggy commits. What we want here is a clean submission, and a tidy, well constructed, non-rebased, well-tested Git tree. Or plain email submissions initially, because frankly i shouldnt Git-pull such a messy tree. 3) The comments. For example the revert: From 0ff51d1467af91bca4210b0d09372b6e7ded7524 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:02:04 -0600 Subject: [PATCH] Revert "x86: remove the Voyager 32-bit subarch" This reverts commit 965c7ecaf2e2b083d711a01ab33735a4bdeee1a4. --- That is not how we do reverts! We always give a reason for a revert. 4) Small details like standard commit titles in the x86 tree. It shouldnt be: [VOYAGER] x86: eliminate subarchitecture file do_timer.h It should be: x86: Voyager: Eliminate subarchitecture file do_timer.h Note the different order and different capitalization. 5) And as i requested it in an earier thread, quirky platforms should be supported via a _single_ quirks file. That makes it easy to handle and makes it easy to ignore as well. It's basically a "weird hardware driver". We have examples of that, for example arch/x86/kernel/visws_quirks.c. Voyager will be larger than that but it's OK - it's not like it will undergo massive development. Putting it back into arch/x86/mach-voyager/ again reintroduces the subarch directory structure we got rid of. 6) This ordering of subsequent patches: 5c173bb: [VOYAGER] x86: eliminate subarchitecture file do_timer.h 18d3288: [VOYAGER] x86: eliminate subarchitecture file entry_arch.h 42c7289: [VOYAGER] x86: eliminate subarchitecture file setup_arch.h is totally wrong - it removes something that should not have been put there in the first place. If then Voyager should be added as a clean series of patches: first the generic patches that introduce infrastructure changes (to x86_quirks and smp_ops, etc.), then a single final patch that adds in the Voyager quirks platform driver. And we've been through similar excercises multiple times before. All in one, this tree is quite poor and needs a lot of work. Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-next" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html