Hello Semat , On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, semat wrote: > You do not need to use the access database. Simply set inside's smart > relay host to in&out and then on in&out do not allow relaying just not > putting anything in access and relay domains should solve this. thus > inside will be able to send mail to in&out but not to the outside since it > will say relaying denied. I'll definately give this a try . But ... I don't see how I can keep all the users addresses in the same domain ? ie: joey@fictitous.com (on 'in&out') joseph@fictitous.com (on 'inside') If I use an entry in the aliases file then 'inside' can be reached from 'The World' . This 'easily' bypasses any of the Spam prevention techniques I have (tried) using . It appears that the forwarding done in the aliases file happen well before the actions in the spam filters . I can see that I left another wonderful item out of the setup below . All the users are using either Internet exploder or PC-pine for accessing their email using imap . All access to 'inside' is from known ip's . Access to 'in&out' may be from unknown ip's . IF I don't put the users machines ip's into either of the access/relay files on 'in&out' They can nolonger send email to 'The World' ie: relaying denied . Thus I already have something in the access &/or relay files . > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: > > Hello All , I am having a bit (to put it mildly) of trouble with > > trying to create two systems . One which users will have access > > to external email & internal , the others will have access to > > internal only . my setup is something like this . all ip's > > are fictitous . > > > > ------------------------------------- ------------------------- > > | | | | | > > [ inside ] [ in&out ] [ router ] [ The World ] > > ( smart host ) > > 10.0.0.1 199.33.245.7 > > Not Routeable Routeable > > > > - 'inside' can send email to 'in&out' . > > - 'in&out' can send email to 'inside' . > > - 'in&out' can send email to 'The World' . > > - 'The World' can send email to 'in&out' . > > > > - 'inside' cannot send email to 'The World' . > > - 'The World' cannot send email to 'inside' . > > > > - All users must have addresses in the same domain . > > ie: joe@ficticous.com > > > > At present: > > - 'in&out' is the primary (smart) mailer for the domain . > > - 'inside' points all mail that it doesn't know how to handle to the > > smart host 'in&out' . > > > > I have tried several sendmail 'access' database permutions on the > > 'smart host' to no avail . If I attempt to reject mail from > > 'inside' it can nolonger send email to 'in&out' . You can guess > > how the rest of the permutations I have tried have gone . > > All helpful insights are welcome . Tia , JimL +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS | | Network Engineer | 25416 22nd So | Give me Linux | | babydr@baby-dragons.com | DesMoines WA 98198 | only on AXP | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org